OOP: Those Evans Girls WAS (Spoilers!) Re: OOP: Thoughts and more thoughts
jmgarciaiii
jmgarciaiii at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 27 13:07:12 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 64879
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> 6. Here's one of several comments about Petunia/Lily/their
parents. Firstly, if as someone suggested, the Evans were a pair of
Squibs who got married, had Petunia (non-magical) and Lily
(magical), then Petunia wouldn't be a squib, she'd just be a muggle,
as a squib is a non-magical child born of Wizarding parents. Lily
would be a muggle-born witch. This having been said, I do think (as
many have suggested) that although Petunia acts like she may have
been the oldest, that she was younger- someone (I believe it was
lizcrosssmith) said exactly what I thought, which was that Lily gets
a letter saying she's a lost member of this wonderful hidden world,
she comes home and shows her younger sister (who of course looks up
to her, as all little sisters do) all these tricks and neat things
she can do, and then Petunia doesn't recieve a letter saying that
she, too, is "special". This would be a particular upset if since
their parents were so excited that they had a witch in the family.
To play the devil's advocate, if the Evans' had been a wizarding
family, making Petunia a squib, they would have rather been
expecting a letter to show up- they probably would have already
known that she was a witch, and Petunia a Squib, before the letter
would have come, anyway. In other words, they wouldn't have been
surprised to get a letter for Lily from Hogwarts. Besides, the
Weasley's weren't waiting for a letter from Hogwarts to confirm that
their children were magical, right?
>
Further thoughts on my part over That Wacky Evans Family. [Caveat:
This is all my own set of suppositions based on conjecture, hunch
and semi-organized speculation.]
Pa Evans, Squib marries Ma Evans, Squib. They move to life amomg the
Muggles, adopting a goodly bit of Muggleness, but not QUITE. They
still pine (much like Argus Filch pines) for the ability to do
magic. They have Petunia, Squib. Then they have Lily, witch.
Petunia's not all that crazy about the remnants of wizarding culture
still to be found in her family, and tries to REALLY fit in among
the Muggles (in the case of people who belong to certain
ethnic/religious minorities who are attempting to assimilate into
the larger culture, this sort of behavior is called "trying to
pass"). Petunia's 11th comes and goes without any sort of owlish
disruption. But THEN Lily's 11th rolls by and ta-da, she gets the
owl with the letter. She now becomes the "perfect one" the one
through whom Ma & Pa Evans can live the wizarding life vicariously.
Petunia buries herself even deeper in Muggleitude, rejects her
family (besides Lily...are there ANY OTHER maternal relatives of HP
mentioned?) entirely, and thinks her sister freakish, thanking her
(Petunia's) lucky stars she was not saddled with the freakishness.
> 13. Now here I'm very sure I'm in the vast minority (I'm thinking
perhaps 10 people out of our 8300 may think this as well). The
relationship between Sirius and Harry has always bothered me, even
last year, and definately this year (OoP). They've known one another
less than two years, and yet Harry is willing to listen almost
exclusively to what Sirius has to say. He won't go to Dumbledore, he
won't ask anyone else for advice, and I'm not sure I understand why.
He's known Dumbledore, the Weasleys, even Lupin longer and better...
Why go exclusively to Sirius for advice and counsel? I'm thinking
this way- if I was told I had a sister I never knew I had, and
someone introduced us, I wouldn't instantly love them just because
someone said she was my sister. Yet this is how I think it happened
with Sirius and Harry. Why does he love Sirius any more than Lupin,
or Molly, or Dumbledore? He's known those three longer; they too
have his best interests at heart; Molly even thinks of him as her
own son. Is it just because Sirius has the title godfather, or
because he's one of Harry's father's best friends?
>
I guesstimate that HP felt the level of affection for SB for the
simple reason he was, in HP's mind, the ticket out of #4 Privet.
He'd live with Sirius, he'd leave the Dursleys forever and all would
be right with the world.
> I was touched when Harry was part of Mrs. Weasley's Woes. I think
part of what bothered me so much about the H/S relationship in this
book is that Sirius didn't seem to have Harry's best interests at
heart for quite a bit of the book- he was reckless, a little
selfish, and so that bothers me. Perhaps, when I can articulate my
thoughts and feelings on this matter a little more clearly, I will
post about it. Hehe.
>
I would also lean in this direction. I am mildly saddened that SB
had to be the first major character to assume room temperature, but
I am not grief-stricken by this. The scene with Neville and his
mother was, to my mind, infinitely more touching.
-Joe in SoFla
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