[HPforGrownups] Re: OOP: James( was:Two-way Mirror and other frustrations)

[Jenserai Bariman]

No: HPFGUIDX 65206

Someone, I don't know who wrote in response to a Valky post:
> > That is possible, James's fiercest attack only came after Snape
> > called Lily a 'mudblood' so in defense of a girl he was at least
> > attracted to at that point he was much quicker and colder in his
> > attack then when he was just doing it for fun.
>

Valky replied:
>Ahhh, an ally, I was beginning to think the entire Severus fan club
>would be coming on me in the dozens and I'd be all alone. :b
>

Are you sure that's an ally? I thought this person was speculating that we 
saw even worse from James after Snape pulled Harry out of the pensive. That 
a quick and cold attack got spectacularly quicker and colder.

>A general Post to answer the stream of incomings in this debate.
>
>James' was not so bad. We are all tricked, by the memory, into
>ignoring that James' was overall a rebel against things of poor
>character.

Okay, stop. I am a Snape fan. I'll thank you not to call him a _thing_. As 
for poor character, I have just put together a theory in an earlier post 
which holds more water than yours and paints Snape as more of a Saint than 
you are painting James.

>If we are to make a judgement about James' senses and his
>life on that day we are to look at every miniscule detail. From the
>snitch to the exam to the very last comment it has to be put together
>as James.

So, tell me. What miniscule detail have I been overlooking all this time?

>JK has deliberately highlighted the negative aspect to
>glaze over what we should be looking at about James.
>Frankly, I am saying, we consistently ask the question why did
>Voldemort want James', the answer is in there.
>James was a gung ho crusader against all things that smelled evil.

Want James' what? If you meant James' death, then I think I'll go with the 
obvious answer and say that a) he was part of the Order and b) he was 
between Voldemort and the baby he wanted to kill.

>He was a right little Bleeeeeep about it too. No holds barred
>absolute oppositional. To a degree where his contempt for bad
>character lead him to be such a complete backside he has even managed
>to legacy his son with a disturbing extreme of it.

Do give me some evidence that Teenaged!Snape had bad character. Come on, I 
can take it. I warn you though, I'll use your splendid spinning technique 
and turn into a Mistreated!Mistaken!Mislead!Snape. Or Saint!Snape depending 
on which evidence you use.

>Sirius also felt this way about the dark side. I am not saying they
>were wise men. In fact, that they weren't, is exactly my point.
>They were the marauders, in every bitter way opposed to dark wizards,
>beyond repute. They were a couple of self-righteous little toads in
>some ways, but they stood on a good principle and in so doing were
>inherently honourable.

There is no honor in what they did. Plain and simple.
And there is still no evidence that they only targeted people who exhibited 
signs of interest in evil.

>Oh I am just blithering now.
>I have to be strong here..c.c.can't l.l.let them h.h..hate Ja..James.
>Valky
>

-Jens

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