Question about Narcissa and the DEs

[a_rude_mechanical]

No: HPFGUIDX 56891

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tom Wall" <thomasmwall at y...> 
wrote:
> So, based on these people and Voldemort's own discussion of his 
> methods, we can tell that he has used four major ways of acquiring 
> support for himself:
> 
> 1) True loyalty, exemplified by Barty Crouch Jr. and the dark 
haired 
> lady from the Pensieve.
> 
> 2) Imperius Curse, of which we've seen only Barty Crouch Sr. in 
GoF. 
> We find out that Voldemort himself used this curse on Crouch in 
GoF, 
> Ch.35: "My father was placed under the Imperius Curse by my 
master." 
> We're also *told* that the Malfoys claimed to have been bewitched. 
> In PS/SS Ch.6, Ron says "They were some of the first to come back 
to 
> our side after You-Know-Who disappeared. Said they'd been 
> bewitched." As far as we know, Crouch Sr. doesn't have the Dark 
> Mark. Malfoy apparently does. So, I'm not sure that I'm convinced 
> that people who're simply under Voldemort's control would have the 
> Dark Mark. They could, to be fair, but it seems unlikely to me.
> 
> 3) Threats/Pain/Fear, as with Pettigrew: "I never meant it to 
> happen... He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named forced me -" (PoA, Ch.19) and, 
> apparently, as with the use of the Cruciatus Curse on Avery GoF, 
> Ch.33. Both of these guys seem to be cooperating out of fear, and 
> I'm guessing that they both have the Dark Mark.
> 
> 4) Promises, as with, interestingly enough, Pettigrew and the 
silver 
> hand: "Lord Voldemort rewards his helpers" from GoF, Ch.33, and 
also 
> with Macnair: "Lord Voldemort will provide" also in GoF, Ch.33. 
> Again, both would appear to have the Dark Mark.
> 
> I think it's safe to say that, through one or combinations of more 
> of these methods, this is how that group of people in the circle, 
> the Death Eaters, got to be there.
> 
> Which of Voldemort's methods of acquiring support applies to 
Lucius? 
> To Narcissa?
> 


Thank you for your reply, it was very interesting!!  And it gave me a 
new thought (frightening, isn't it!?)

A while back there was a thread about Snape's reaction to Harry's 
mention of Lucius at the DE reunion (at the end of GoF).  I wondered 
then if Snape was surprised that Lucius had returned to Voldie 
because perhaps he believed that Lucius had repented of his ways so 
to speak...My new thought is this: perhaps he truly did believe that 
Lucius was under the imperious curse those many years ago, and part 
of the reason he worked to bring Voldie down was to help friends that 
he believed were under a spell--only to find out differently when 
Harry gives the news?  No, Lucius isn't a great guy.  Yes, the 
Malfoys have an interest in the Dark Arts.  However, as you said, 
that doesn't necessarily make someone a DE.  Maybe he genuinely likes 
Lucius and had hoped that he told the truth about acting under the 
Imperious curse--sometimes being close to someone can cause us to be 
blind about them.

That would also explain another of my problems: why would the Malfoys 
allow their son to be taught by a man who betrayed Voldie to 
Dumbledore?  One would think Lucius would try to exact some sort of 
revenge.  If he is sticking to his story and all, then he would have 
to pretend to like Severus.  

Hmmm...I spend way too much time thinking about this stuff! At least 
I'm among friends! =)

Elisabeth