QRe: [HPforGrownups] Re: Neville/Memory Charms

[Kelly Grosskreutz]

No: HPFGUIDX 56973


> Kelly (me)

> >Then I got to thinking that his parents were found alive and their
> >tormentors were captured, so the DE's didn't get to finish their
> dirty deeds.
>
>
Cindy C.

> Maybe there's another reason the Pensieve Four didn't kill the
> Longbottoms outright.  Maybe, just maybe, they didn't want the Dark
> Mark to appear over the Longbottoms' house, see.
>
Kelly (me)

Well, if they didn't want the Dark Mark to appear over the house, then all
they would have to do is not say the spell that will send it up.  We see
Crouch Jr. say "Morsmordre," right before the Dark Mark shows up at the QWC.
>
> Kelly (me)

> > Later, we see Crouch Jr.'s trial for the torture of the
> >Longbottoms.  Harry places his age at around 19.  So this trial
> >would then have had to be 3-5 years after the first batch, giving a
> >little bit of leeway for age miscalculations on both ends.  If this
> >is the case, Neville was anywhere between 4-7 years old.  Let's say
> >5 just for the fun of it.   This would be  long enough after all
> >the post-war trials that the WW would have been feeling safe.  This
> >would also make Neville old enough to be able to remember what
> >transpired if he was actually at home at the time, and not
> > with his Gran.
>
Cindy C

> Oh, I dunno, Kelley.  I dunno.  See, I always figured that
> Voldemort's empire folded like a napkin once he was reduced to a
> garlic-scented fume.  "The attacks on them came after Voldemort's
> fall from power, just when everyone thought they were safe."  So if
> Voldemort falls in October 1981, I'm figuring the Pensieve Four
> torture the Longbottoms right away, perhaps even before 1982
> starts.  This makes Neville quite young indeed, I'm thinking.
>
Kelly (me)

Again, I thought the same as you did.  Until I calculated the dates up
above.  If the Longbottoms were tortured immediately after the war, then
Crouch Jr would still have been 15 or so.  To account for him looking about
19, this would had to have taken place a couple of years later.  By this
time, all the DE trials are over and the wizarding world, for the most part,
is beginning to whisper reassuringly to themselves that the dark days are
over.  Things are beginning to get back to normal.  Enter Crouch Jr. and the
other Pensieve people.  All of a sudden, it is no longer safe again.

Kelly Grosskreutz
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