Lily Evans Potter relationship to Voldemort

alexcukier acukier at uol.com.br
Fri May 16 17:50:11 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 57999

Voivamus and Darry wrote:
"Canon: When Voldemort went to kill Harry, he had just killed 
James. Lily knew he was there to kill Harry.  Voldemort told Lily to 
stand aside.  When she didn't obey him right away, he told her to 
stand aside *again.*  When she didn't stand aside after (at least) 
two warnings, he killed her, then tried to kill Harry.
This is a classic case of two views of the same canon. Where you see 
two warnings as being a real effort to move Lily (and to be fair, it 

was probably more than what he usually did), I think it was a pretty 
poor effort if he really wanted to kill Harry without killing her.

pg 134 UK (Grim Defeat)
- Not Harry, please no, take me, kill me instead--"
Later on the page. "-Not Harry! Please... have mercy... have mercy..."
Obviously we don't know for sure that this is what really happened, 
but I tend to believe this is Harry's subconscious memories, and they 
are fairly accurate.
And in the first film, the James and Lily death scene, which Lexicon 
(I believe) considers canon because JKR wrote it, Lily wasn't 
attacking."

Now Me:

I believe that we are in the right track about the real motives 
Voldemort had to kill Harry. If you read carefully the quote above we 
can see that:
1) Lilly knew that Voldemort wanted to kill Harry (possibly the 
motive, too).
2) She believed(or hoped) that she could be killed instead of Harry 
(what turns stronger that she would know the motive).
3) Voldemort were ther to kill at least Harry and SHE REALLY COULD 
NOT BE KILLED, or her words would be in vain (because she would be 
killed anyways...)

That brings the old discussion about Mrs Trellawney first correct 
prediction or some black magic in order to give voldemort esternal 
Life.

I personally believe that the VOLDEMORT HAD A LIFE BOND WITH LILLY 
AND BY AN ANCIENT MAGIC TRANSFERED THIS BOND TO HARRY (any ideas of 
an acronym with this idea?). But I believe that Canon at least 
confirm the 1-3 ideas above.

Alex Cukier, The Brazilian Huge Fan
- looking for a new english teacher
- "Pure Mother's Bond", would be a Freudian band name, Darry?






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