Chances of Being Alive at the End of Book Seven

kiel2fisch sgebhardt at t-online.de
Wed Oct 8 21:02:53 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 82553

More thoughts and wishes about who will die or live:

 
urghiggi wrote:
> <<Neville Longbottom--Dead.>>
>Yep. Toast. In a blaze of Gryffindor Bravery that does his Gran 
> >proud. Neville Lives: 0%


IMO Neville teams up with Luna. Both of them become famous for the 
discovery of some magical miracles (like fast-corned-heliopaths or 
something), helping to win the war of the wars and finally receiving 
the magic counterpart of the Nobel Price in Sweden.

Neville and Luna survive: 88 %


urghiggi wrote:
> <<I think Fred and George will live too for similar reasons. The 
tone 
> <<of the story changes too much with the death of the comic relief 
> << (and killing one is the death of both). JKR's already destroyed 
one 
> <<prankster, she doen't need anouther. Also, they are unique in 
that 
> <<they aren't tailoring their lives to fit the war. This may 
change in 
> <<the next book, but for now, 


Gred and Forge Live: 100%

I totally agree. They'll become the Bill Gates' of the WW, starting 
their worldwide WWW-business and rake in so much money that the 
Weasleys could easily afford to offer payment to their gnomes for 
chopping off. 
Harry, as the main stakeholder, never has to worry about an empty 
Gringotts vault again.
(Just curious: Would you've invested?)


Harry?
> The Sergeant Majorette says
>>I'm 100% certainly JKR is not going to kill off 
> the main character.>>
> [...], but the point made 
> that there is no lesson if the hero dies gives me hope.


No further comment to that!
Harry lives: 200 %


>Hickengruendler: While I think another student will die, my money is
>on Ginny Weasley (sorry Melanie). I think Harry will fall in love
>with her and than lose her, too.


No way! At least one love in Harry's life should be stronger than 
death AND overcome. Ginny seems to become self-conscious enough to 
stand up to Harry. Is there a better couple?


Not really sure, who wrote this:
> <<Hermione -- Survives.  99% certain.>>
> Yeah. JKR wouldn't kill herself off.

Very good point.

> 
> <<Ron -- Survives...I think.>>


Ron and Hermione IMO will surely survive; otherwise they cannot get 
married in the end. (Ron will be the first Weasley having lots of 
children AND being able to effort them because of Hermione achieving 
the job of Hogwarts ever youngest Headmistress.)

If you wonder why Hermione's going to marry Ron, here's my guess:

After a glorious comeback of Victor Krum (glorious but short, given 
to a last heroic fight over Karkarov and other foreign DE's ), 
Hermione realises that Ron is / was ever her weakest point: no 
scientifically based explanation or all the books in the world could 
make her understand why she loves him. He's just the one.

There's already an interesting development in Ron's character during 
OOTP. As Malfoy indicates Harry is in some aspects only "second best 
to Weasley".
This fact should be almost necessary to their friendship.
Harry wasn't at all pleased by Pettigrew's slimy adoration of James 
and would surely not appreciate if Ron was always second best to him.

In short, Ron is meant for Head Boy and Quidditch Captain in Book 
VII (probability 100 %).    


urghiggi wrote:
> > I keep hoping against hope that "die Ron die" is a red herring, 
> > inserted to tweak JKR's fans who are "on" to the whole seer!Ron 
> > phenomenon. 


The seer scenes, especially during the O.W.L's, are IMO some of the 
funniest passages in the whole story and I hope there'll be more 
just for the fun (not for turning into reality!) *grim*, sorry: 
*grin*



> TJ:Dumbledore-- Dead, Dead, Dead.  I'm 100% certain DD will not be 
alive
> at the end of Book 7, having died heroically to save Harry/the
> world/whatever.


Yes, I think DD gets a bit tired.

Dumbledore lives: 1%


Hagrid?
IMO it's going to be his brother Gwarp, rather than Hagrid, who 
won't make it till the end (not before saving Hagrid's life or 
convincing his giant friends of fighting against Voldemort, of 
course).
I'm pretty sure that Madame Maxime hasn't played her whole role yet, 
either.

Hagrid lives: 95%


> TJ: <<Snape--Survives. But I'm only giving this about a 70% 
certainty.
> I could see him getting killed off.>>
> If he survived, he'd have to mellow out -- feh. I'd like to see 
> him die heroically and become a Hogwarts ghost; maybe thereby 
> releasing Sir Nicholas and becoming, reluctantly, the Gryffindor 
> ghost!

urghiggi wrote:
> <<Snape = Toast. Dies by the misguided actions of the ministry or 
> <<trying to save one of the Students. Snape Lives: 10%


Snape's almost my favourite character (does this give away too 
much?) and I want him to rise as one of the heroes. He's not evil - 
just a little sarcastic. Deep in his heart he likes Harry since 
sharing his childhood memories. I'm sure he and Harry will at least 
respect each other before the end.

But unfortunately, I think, Snape's supposed to die anyhow. He'll 
finally get his beloved DADA job in Book VII and after the showdown 
he and the Dark Arts probably just vanish. That makes Snape the last 
DADA teacher ever.

Snape lives: 0 %
But, please, show me how he could survive!


urghiggi wrote:
> << The exception is if he hooks up with Tonks or 
> << somebody (and they live), then Lupin's survival sky rockets to 
50%


Lupin & Tonks, what a nice thought! Makes another couple!



Calimora:
> <<  (My take on the mess. Alternitively you could flip a 
> << random Potter book open to a random page and say that everybody 
> << mentioned on the page dies. It'd probably be about as accurate.)


Qué yo no tengo la culpa de verte caer...


>> ~Melanie
> And somebody in the blasted Weasley family has to die.  LOL  They 
are far
too big.  And it's not going to Percy because who would care.  I 
know I
personally would not.  I'd be happy.
>

> << Iggy McSnurd
<< Honestly, if it's not Ron or, preferably, Percy... (who I think 
will die
<< shortly after coming to his senses about what's really important 
in life)
<< I think it would be Arthur... and he'd probably die protecting a 
group of
> << the Muggles he loves so dearly.


As to Percy I agree with Iggy.
But I think Arthur's had his 'mortal-danger-part' already. All the 
Weasley children (except Percy) suffered as if he had already died, 
so it doesn't make sense to replay the scene.
Maybe the more distant Weasley's, like Bill or Charlie, are rather 
dispensable to the plot and therefore in more danger to be killed.



Sunnyi (attending her very first divination class with Florenz Tre-
own-ninny in a few minutes)








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