Chances of Being Alive at the End of Book Seven

urghiggi urghiggi at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 9 13:53:41 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 82580

Yikes, Sunnyi, a bunch of the attributions below are not mine ... my origin=
al 
post on this topic is at #82439.... I don't know who said a bunch of the st=
uff 
below, but with only one exception (the part about 'die ron die'), t'wasn't=
 me...

Urghiggi, chgo




--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kiel2fisch" <sgebhardt at t...> 
wrote:
> More thoughts and wishes about who will die or live:
> 
>  
> urghiggi wrote:
> > <<Neville Longbottom--Dead.>>
> >Yep. Toast. In a blaze of Gryffindor Bravery that does his Gran 
> > >proud. Neville Lives: 0%
> 
> 
> IMO Neville teams up with Luna. Both of them become famous for the 
> discovery of some magical miracles (like fast-corned-heliopaths or 
> something), helping to win the war of the wars and finally receiving 
> the magic counterpart of the Nobel Price in Sweden.
> 
> Neville and Luna survive: 88 %
> 
> 
> urghiggi wrote:
> > <<I think Fred and George will live too for similar reasons. The 
> tone 
> > <<of the story changes too much with the death of the comic relief 
> > << (and killing one is the death of both). JKR's already destroyed 
> one 
> > <<prankster, she doen't need anouther. Also, they are unique in 
> that 
> > <<they aren't tailoring their lives to fit the war. This may 
> change in 
> > <<the next book, but for now, 
> 
> 
> Gred and Forge Live: 100%
> 
> I totally agree. They'll become the Bill Gates' of the WW, starting 
> their worldwide WWW-business and rake in so much money that the 
> Weasleys could easily afford to offer payment to their gnomes for 
> chopping off. 
> Harry, as the main stakeholder, never has to worry about an empty 
> Gringotts vault again.
> (Just curious: Would you've invested?)
> 
> 
> Harry?
> > The Sergeant Majorette says
> >>I'm 100% certainly JKR is not going to kill off 
> > the main character.>>
> > [...], but the point made 
> > that there is no lesson if the hero dies gives me hope.
> 
> 
> No further comment to that!
> Harry lives: 200 %
> 
> 
> >Hickengruendler: While I think another student will die, my money is
> >on Ginny Weasley (sorry Melanie). I think Harry will fall in love
> >with her and than lose her, too.
> 
> 
> No way! At least one love in Harry's life should be stronger than 
> death AND overcome. Ginny seems to become self-conscious enough to 
> stand up to Harry. Is there a better couple?
> 
> 
> Not really sure, who wrote this:
> > <<Hermione -- Survives.  99% certain.>>
> > Yeah. JKR wouldn't kill herself off.
> 
> Very good point.
> 
> > 
> > <<Ron -- Survives...I think.>>
> 
> 
> Ron and Hermione IMO will surely survive; otherwise they cannot get 
> married in the end. (Ron will be the first Weasley having lots of 
> children AND being able to effort them because of Hermione achieving 
> the job of Hogwarts ever youngest Headmistress.)
> 
> If you wonder why Hermione's going to marry Ron, here's my guess:
> 
> After a glorious comeback of Victor Krum (glorious but short, given 
> to a last heroic fight over Karkarov and other foreign DE's ), 
> Hermione realises that Ron is / was ever her weakest point: no 
> scientifically based explanation or all the books in the world could 
> make her understand why she loves him. He's just the one.
> 
> There's already an interesting development in Ron's character during 
> OOTP. As Malfoy indicates Harry is in some aspects only "second best 
> to Weasley".
> This fact should be almost necessary to their friendship.
> Harry wasn't at all pleased by Pettigrew's slimy adoration of James 
> and would surely not appreciate if Ron was always second best to him.
> 
> In short, Ron is meant for Head Boy and Quidditch Captain in Book 
> VII (probability 100 %).    
> 
> 
> urghiggi wrote:
> > > I keep hoping against hope that "die Ron die" is a red herring, 
> > > inserted to tweak JKR's fans who are "on" to the whole seer!Ron 
> > > phenomenon. 
> 
> 
> The seer scenes, especially during the O.W.L's, are IMO some of the 
> funniest passages in the whole story and I hope there'll be more 
> just for the fun (not for turning into reality!) *grim*, sorry: 
> *grin*
> 
> 
> 
> > TJ:Dumbledore-- Dead, Dead, Dead.  I'm 100% certain DD will not be 
> alive
> > at the end of Book 7, having died heroically to save Harry/the
> > world/whatever.
> 
> 
> Yes, I think DD gets a bit tired.
> 
> Dumbledore lives: 1%
> 
> 
> Hagrid?
> IMO it's going to be his brother Gwarp, rather than Hagrid, who 
> won't make it till the end (not before saving Hagrid's life or 
> convincing his giant friends of fighting against Voldemort, of 
> course).
> I'm pretty sure that Madame Maxime hasn't played her whole role yet, 
> either.
> 
> Hagrid lives: 95%
> 
> 
> > TJ: <<Snape--Survives. But I'm only giving this about a 70% 
> certainty.
> > I could see him getting killed off.>>
> > If he survived, he'd have to mellow out -- feh. I'd like to see 
> > him die heroically and become a Hogwarts ghost; maybe thereby 
> > releasing Sir Nicholas and becoming, reluctantly, the Gryffindor 
> > ghost!
> 
> urghiggi wrote:
> > <<Snape = Toast. Dies by the misguided actions of the ministry or 
> > <<trying to save one of the Students. Snape Lives: 10%
> 
> 
> Snape's almost my favourite character (does this give away too 
> much?) and I want him to rise as one of the heroes. He's not evil - 
> just a little sarcastic. Deep in his heart he likes Harry since 
> sharing his childhood memories. I'm sure he and Harry will at least 
> respect each other before the end.
> 
> But unfortunately, I think, Snape's supposed to die anyhow. He'll 
> finally get his beloved DADA job in Book VII and after the showdown 
> he and the Dark Arts probably just vanish. That makes Snape the last 
> DADA teacher ever.
> 
> Snape lives: 0 %
> But, please, show me how he could survive!
> 
> 
> urghiggi wrote:
> > << The exception is if he hooks up with Tonks or 
> > << somebody (and they live), then Lupin's survival sky rockets to 
> 50%
> 
> 
> Lupin & Tonks, what a nice thought! Makes another couple!
> 
> 
> 
> Calimora:
> > <<  (My take on the mess. Alternitively you could flip a 
> > << random Potter book open to a random page and say that everybody 
> > << mentioned on the page dies. It'd probably be about as accurate.)
> 
> 
> Qué yo no tengo la culpa de verte caer...
> 
> 
> >> ~Melanie
> > And somebody in the blasted Weasley family has to die.  LOL  They 
> are far
> too big.  And it's not going to Percy because who would care.  I 
> know I
> personally would not.  I'd be happy.
> >
> 
> > << Iggy McSnurd
> << Honestly, if it's not Ron or, preferably, Percy... (who I think 
> will die
> << shortly after coming to his senses about what's really important 
> in life)
> << I think it would be Arthur... and he'd probably die protecting a 
> group of
> > << the Muggles he loves so dearly.
> 
> 
> As to Percy I agree with Iggy.
> But I think Arthur's had his 'mortal-danger-part' already. All the 
> Weasley children (except Percy) suffered as if he had already died, 
> so it doesn't make sense to replay the scene.
> Maybe the more distant Weasley's, like Bill or Charlie, are rather 
> dispensable to the plot and therefore in more danger to be killed.
> 
> 
> 
> Sunnyi (attending her very first divination class with Florenz Tre-
> own-ninny in a few minutes)





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