OoP - GUILTY Dumbledore (was Dumbledore's true sorrow motives)

Talisman talisman22457 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 6 13:29:24 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 80011

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "njelliot2003" <nelliot at o...> 
wrote:yahoogroups.com, "njelliot2003" <nelliot at o...> wrote:
Nicholas
Replying to Talisman's post 66983:

>> <snip> JKR is cruel to Harry, but surely even she could not be 
that cruel. <snip>  Masterful manipulation or plotting? <snip> it 
allows JKR to introduce a fascinating plot development> Well now 
that I'm done and I've read through what I've written I have to say 
that my post contains a lot more speculation than I thought I would 
need to rebut your arguments Talisman. Cést la vie. <snip> What is 
JKR thinking? (as she skips off the  bank - laughing!)


Talsiman, rather busy at the moment, sorting through dark artifacts 
in the Malfoy cache, takes time to note:

I'm sorry that you don't regard Rowling as a competent author.

Good writing has textual integrity that allows the competent reader 
to gather meaning through careful observation. By making 
comparisons, noting consistencies and inconsistencies, following 
cause and effect, etc. the reader can achieve an enhanced 
understanding of the text. This is called explication. 

Though readers should be able to advert to the text with confidence 
in all good writing, this is particularly essential for a work 
partaking of the mystery genre. 

There are readers who are passionately committed to a safe and 
twinkly Dumbledor (though you may find bluesqueak's #79453 
interesting).  These readers often rely on a great deal 
of "coincidence" or, like you, blame what they see as Rowling's 
artless plot devices, in exculpating Dumbledore or otherwise 
explaining a character's actions. 

However, only the poorest writer forwards the action by use 
of "coincidences" and  disjointed authorial interventions in the 
flow of the plot.  I not only trust my own assessment as to the 
existence of a coherent and probative text, but I have more respect 
for Rowling's talent than to dismiss her writing as accident or 
convenience.

As you note, your general view has previously been offered.  There 
being no sport or profit to gain from debating whether Rowling is 
mean or "just does it that way," I leave you to your understanding 
of the matter. 

My own view of Dumbledore's death-chamber role, which includes 
his "pure" motives, remains fairly consistent with my original post 
on this thread, though I have refined my consideration of the spell 
in use, as in my #75836.

Talisman, tossing aside a shrunken head, and going for the 
intricately carved chest. . . .

P.S. You might want to read the Administrative posts regarding 1)
snipping; 2) the use of "Me."







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