OoP - GUILTY Dumbledore (was Dumbledore's true sorrow motives)
Talisman
talisman22457 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 6 13:29:24 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 80011
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "njelliot2003" <nelliot at o...>
wrote:yahoogroups.com, "njelliot2003" <nelliot at o...> wrote:
Nicholas
Replying to Talisman's post 66983:
>> <snip> JKR is cruel to Harry, but surely even she could not be
that cruel. <snip> Masterful manipulation or plotting? <snip> it
allows JKR to introduce a fascinating plot development> Well now
that I'm done and I've read through what I've written I have to say
that my post contains a lot more speculation than I thought I would
need to rebut your arguments Talisman. Cést la vie. <snip> What is
JKR thinking? (as she skips off the bank - laughing!)
Talsiman, rather busy at the moment, sorting through dark artifacts
in the Malfoy cache, takes time to note:
I'm sorry that you don't regard Rowling as a competent author.
Good writing has textual integrity that allows the competent reader
to gather meaning through careful observation. By making
comparisons, noting consistencies and inconsistencies, following
cause and effect, etc. the reader can achieve an enhanced
understanding of the text. This is called explication.
Though readers should be able to advert to the text with confidence
in all good writing, this is particularly essential for a work
partaking of the mystery genre.
There are readers who are passionately committed to a safe and
twinkly Dumbledor (though you may find bluesqueak's #79453
interesting). These readers often rely on a great deal
of "coincidence" or, like you, blame what they see as Rowling's
artless plot devices, in exculpating Dumbledore or otherwise
explaining a character's actions.
However, only the poorest writer forwards the action by use
of "coincidences" and disjointed authorial interventions in the
flow of the plot. I not only trust my own assessment as to the
existence of a coherent and probative text, but I have more respect
for Rowling's talent than to dismiss her writing as accident or
convenience.
As you note, your general view has previously been offered. There
being no sport or profit to gain from debating whether Rowling is
mean or "just does it that way," I leave you to your understanding
of the matter.
My own view of Dumbledore's death-chamber role, which includes
his "pure" motives, remains fairly consistent with my original post
on this thread, though I have refined my consideration of the spell
in use, as in my #75836.
Talisman, tossing aside a shrunken head, and going for the
intricately carved chest. . . .
P.S. You might want to read the Administrative posts regarding 1)
snipping; 2) the use of "Me."
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