CHAPTER DISCUSSION: Chapter 16: In the Hog's Head

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
> Chapter 16
> In the Hog's Head

snips summary.

> > Questions:
> 
> 1)  Why is Hermione now saying Voldemort's name?  Why did she not 
ever
> say it before?  Why did she say it in a very public place?


She decided to take example from Harry? :o) As others said, she is 
getting rid of her fear of the name, but I would add not quite yet. 
When she is referring to Voldie in this chapter it is not "Voldemort" 
yet, it is "V-Voldemort". Well, at least it is not "You - know-who" 
anymore. :o)

 
> 2)  What is Ron's annoyance with Victor Krum and Hermione's
> relationship based on?  How has it shifted through the last two 
books?
>  Is Ron's protective nature towards Hermione the same as his
> protection of Ginny when hearing she too has a possible "boyfriend"?


I would say Ron's reaction to "Vicky" has not changed at all since 
GoF, or at least based on what we are allowed to see. Ron is jealous, 
plain and simple. After rereading this chapter tonight, I think he is 
very jealous, actually.

"Ron looked around at her so fast he appeared to crick his neck; 
rubbing it, he said, "Yeah? What did Vicky say?" OoP, p.332

.........

"You are not still in contact with him, are you?"
"So what if I am ?' said hermione coolly, though her face was a 
little pink. "I can have a pen pal if I --" p.333


I am actually interested why Hermione's face became a little pink. I 
mean to me it is quite obvious that Ron has strong feelings for her 
for a while, but does she or does she not. Is she pink because she 
thinks about Krum as more than pen pal or is she pink because she 
knows that Ron is annoyed and she does not like it? :o)

 
> 4)  Why did Hermione pick Hog's Head when it actually is more 
obvious
> a place for suspicion than anywhere else?  Why did they not heed 
note
> when Hagrid got into trouble there years before?  


I thought that was actually very smart of her. I happened to believe 
that it is easier to hide suspicious activity in the already 
suspicious location .

Who will go look for Hogwarts students in this place? Of course, if 
bartender is indeed Dumbledore's brother, they were watched quite 
closely.
 

> 
> 6)  Why is there, once again, no Slytherins willing to have even a
> smidgeon of an open mind about things?  Did the other students just
> not tell them, or did Slytherins not want to come?  


Well, I agree with potioncat. it is "by invitation" group and 
Hermione does not really have any Slytherin friends. But, JKR, come 
on. Please hurry. It is about time for a good Slytherin to show up.
 

> 
> > 11)  Ginny now seems to be past her little girl crush with 
Harry.  Is
> her newfound love for boys an attention at moving on or just passing
> time until Harry is ready?


I think I am starting to care about Harry and Ginny as future couple. 
I do think that it JKR way to pass time till Harry is ready. Why 
would she bother developing Ginny's character?



> 12)  In the end of the chapter, Hermione is the social informer to 
all
> things romantic.  Is this within her character's scope, or is she
> branching out beyond her normal self?  Or another way of asking, is
> she just acting like a 15 year old girl?
>


Nooooo, not as normal fifteen year old girl, if you ask me. 
Hermione's explanations to Harry about Cho's feelings were just plain 
annoying to me, even if she was right all the time, or maybe 
specifically because she was right all the time.
 

> 
> Melody
> who did not realize how much shipping there was in this chapter....


Alla, who finds herself in complete agreement with Melody. :o) (good 
questions, by the way) 
>