To Where To When (TimeTurning that may make sense)
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 4 08:03:55 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 108779
Josh:
> > > I unfortunately have to discount the idea of TimeTurning!DD
Valky:
> > It's interesting that you reply this way.
> > I am certain that DD *does* have ready access to timetravel
among his many possessions, and uses it, but he cannot change what
is past.
>
Josh:
> I've always been a big fan of time travel depicted as unable to
> change the past. <snippped> However, let's assume that Dumbledore
can timeturn at will. A whole bunch of possibilities turn up that
> wouldn't add up. CoS comes to mind. Knowing an attack had
happened, why could DD have timeturned, set up some sort of
monitoring system (spell, mirror like Sirius', ghost with his eyes
closed) so as to learn any information possible? He couldn't change
the past, but he could have informed himself for the future.
Valky Now:
This is a *really* good point Josh. I have set myself up to answer
for every situation that DD could have Timeturned in haven't I, well
I suppose if I want to float the raft......... ;D
Firstly, if I answer this question well, there's about a couple of
dozen more the same that I'll need to answer in turn following it.
Thus I should start by saying that, if DD Timeturns, he uses it
sparingly and with a great deal of discernment. I am sure he
wouldn't TT himself for any old thing, its a convoluted and
mysterious art. I am sure anyone, with half a mind, could see it
would get you *into* more trouble than it would get you out of
unless you resisted the temptation to do it over and over.
Having said that, there is still, yet another possibilty that DD did
use time to uncover the mystery in COS. Now if he was timeturning in
COS, I agree that he would have done it exactly as you proposed, by
going back to the place where an attack happened and observing.
But I think he would probably be inclined to do it *only once*.
There are great risks involved especially in a school full of
inexperienced children who, would inevitably be entangled in any
mess he might accidentally make, if it got out of hand, which we all
agree timetravel quickly can even when we just *think* about it.
Now, if I am correct in this premise then there is evidence that he
*did* timeturn once and only once to get a little extra info on the
COS incedent. He comments twice that he knew who was setting the
Basilisk on the children and in both instances he admits he doesn't
know how.
In 'the Rogue Bludger' he says: The Question is not who. The
Question is how...
Now of course we *can* take this exclusively to mean that he knows
it is Tom, but.......
In Dobby's Reward after Harry had 'so far avoided mentioning Ginny
or the Diary' DD says: What interests me most is How Lord Voldemort
managed to enchant Ginny.
Nobody *told him* that Ginny was doing Toms dirty work he *knew*
already.........
Thanks Josh.
Now awaiting the next barrage of DD doesn't Timeturn.
Oh and By the way......
Josh:
I would content that TT!DD would have arrived at the MoM seconds
behind the sextet, or even have been waiting for them at
> the telephone booth.
>
>
Valky:
The problem is if it *didn't* happen in the correct timeline it
*won't* happpen if you timeturn back to that spot.
DD probably didn't, because who really knew? *when* they arrived.
Snape waited an undetermined amount of time for them to return from
the forest and there was no telling how they got to London from DD's
POV at the time. I am thinking it may have taken several
unsuccessful time turns to arrive at the correct moment you speak of
which would be far too messy. I suspect DD would rather have *used*
his *sources* to determine when *LV* would arrive at the DOM and
would have set any timeturning to that moment.
Best to You
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