To Where To When (TimeTurning that may make sense)

[Josh Warren]

No: HPFGUIDX 108874

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon at h...> 
wrote:
> Valky:
> Now, if I am correct in this premise then there is evidence that he 
> *did* timeturn once and only once to get a little extra info on the 
> COS incedent. He comments twice that he knew who was setting the 
> Basilisk on the children and in both instances he admits he doesn't 
> know how.
> 
> In 'the Rogue Bludger' he says: The Question is not who. The 
> Question is how...
> Now of course we *can* take this exclusively to mean that he knows 
> it is Tom, but.......
> In Dobby's Reward after Harry had 'so far avoided mentioning Ginny 
> or the Diary' DD says: What interests me most is How Lord Voldemort 
> managed to enchant Ginny.
> 
> Nobody *told him* that Ginny was doing Toms dirty work he *knew* 
> already.........

>From his description of TR/LV as the only remaining descendant (I'll 
skip the debate about the 'ancestor' debate) of Saly then he can be 
fairly certain that Tom is and was responsible; though yes, probably 
after LV's rise and a bit of research.
 
However, knowing the lethal nature of the Basilisk's eyes (if he'd 
TTed for info, he'd have known it was a Basilisk first and foremost), 
then I feel he would have given more specific preventative advice, 
such as using mirrors around corners ala Hermy and Penelope. Not only 
does he care about the students' safety, but a death would have 
closed the school much sooner.

Also, I seem to remember a look of delighted surprise when Harry and 
co. dragged into MM's office. Also, I thought he picked up on Ginny 
being the tool from Harry's obmission, and logical deduction: a TR up 
on current events would seek out Harry, no 3rd person was with them 
or described in the story, knew it was TR somehow, etc. It was just 
the method of enchantment, i.e. the diary, that was unknown to DD.

Furthermore, on that vein, remember that Ginny dumped the diary in 
Myrtle's toilet... i.e. she had it with her in the bathroom no one 
uses. That tells me she was carrying it around with her when opening 
the chamber, so if DD saw her, he'd probably connect the diary to it. 
I also don't think she went with the Basilisk on its rounds, so for 
DD to have eyeballed Ginny, he would have to have known the location 
of the chamber (he could have sealed it up at that time).

> Thanks Josh.
> Now awaiting the next barrage of DD doesn't Timeturn.

Ah, the more advanced debate it why I checked this group out, in 
fact. :) Much more enjoyable that debating ships. 

Here's one thought... perhaps he only turns when he can see evidence 
that he already has. For example, he makes the recommendation to 
Hermione to use hers in such a manner after seeing Buckbeak's 
disappearance that he knew wasn't accomplished by the trio on the 
first pass.

However and contrarily to my above, to knock you off your raft 
entirely (evil laugh) :) ...while yes, I agree time turning his 
complicated, keep in mind that in PoA, Hermione was doing it once or 
twice a day every weekday (that's ~180 turns in the year, by an 
unexperienced student). Surely DD could do it more than once a 
year?? :)

Josh