[HPforGrownups] Marietta and Hermione (was JKR's Messages ) (was Re: Hermione In Trouble?)

[charme]

No: HPFGUIDX 120887


>> That doesn't contradict the fact that there was a war going on in
> the WW during OoP. But that war was very secret, it was in no way an
> open thing. So I find it a bit unfair to expect the public to not only
> know about it but even take a side in it.
> <snip>
>> As you said in your other post: it's all about how much information
>> people have access to, and then exercising their best judgement.
>
>
> Carol adds:
> One more point in support of Del. Harry refuses to explain, either to
> Cho alone or to the DA, how Cedric died. Granted, he might not have
> been believed if he had done so, but he doesn't even make the attempt.
> There's only the half-truth, stated by Harry and echoed by Dumbledore,
> that Voldemort murdered Cedric. Bodiless Vapormort, whom the DA
> members may or may not know was formerly inside Quirrell's head,
> murdered a TWT champion? The DA members don't know that Wormtail
> resurrected Voldemort, much less that Babymort ordered Wormtail to
> "kill the spare." It's surprising that *any* of the DA members other
> than the Gryffindors believe Harry. He's told them virtually nothing.
>
> And it's no surprise at all that Marietta, whose mother works for the
> MoM, thinks he's inventing the story of Voldemort's return, perhaps to
> cover his own guilt in Cedric's death. He's provided no evidence
> whatever to support his claim. As Del indicates, the only available
> "information" was what the MoM provided via the Daily Prophet. Harry
> does not even provide his own explanation of events. And DD doesn't
> explain them, either. He merely asks for a salute to the murdered
> Cedric and another to Harry, who has miraculously escaped Voldemort.
> *How?* *What happened?* The students aren't told. And, to repeat,
> Harry adamantly refuses to clarify matters for the DADA members:
>
> "Zacharias said dismissively, 'All Dumbledore told us last year was
> that Cedric Diggory got killed by You-Know-Who and that you brought
> Diggory's body back to Hogwarts. He didn't give us details, he didn't
> tell us exactly how Diggory got murdered, I think we'd all like to know--'
>
> "'If you've come to hear exactly what it looks like when Voldemort
> murders someone I can't help you,' Harry said. His temper. . . was
> rising again. . . . "I don't want to talk about Cedric Diggory, all
> right? So if that's what you're here for, you might as well clear out"
> (OoP Am. ed. 341).
>
> Harry has hardly strengthened his position with that reaction.
> Hermione rescues the situation by reminding the group that they're
> meeting to "learn some defense." Had she not spoken up, it's likely
> that Zacharias, Marietta, and others would have walked out at that
> moment. If Harry had told the full truth, they would have realized
> that he could not be making it up. Instead, he aroused their
> suspicions by being suspicious himself.
>
charme -

I understand what you're saying. However, Harry has horrors his schoolmates 
can't imagine, as Lupin eloquently tells Harry in PoA in response to Harry's 
concern he's weak because the Dementors affect him so.  Harry appears not to 
be mature enough to understand the importance of sharing such details; if he 
did, we might not have the story we do. :) Would the details of Cedric's 
death truly make an impact on those who have not experienced anything before 
or after LV's demise?