Were Dumbledore & Snape involved in James & Lilly's death+ LV downfall?

[naamagatus]

No: HPFGUIDX 90310

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Fred Waldrop" 
<fredwaldrop at y...> wrote:
> 
 
> Fred again
> Naama,if you would have read all of what I said, you would have 
> seen "And until Harry DOES have the *power/will/ability* to kill 
LV, 
> LV will not be able to kill Harry." I understand that Harry alway 
> had the "power", but he did not have the ability to use it as a 
baby.
> 

So .. I'm not sure then that I understand your original argument. 
What is logically impossible in "either must die at the hand of the 
other" and Voldemort having successfuly killed baby Harry? (It's not 
a rhetorical question, I really want to understand.)


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> 
> 
> Naama wrote
> On what do you base the assertion that it wasn't Lily's sacrifice 
> that saved Harry? 
>  
> 
> Fred again
> Just like so many more in here, no one REALLY knows what kept Harry 
> from dying, we all just have out theories about what helped save 
him.
> Whith my theory, I AM still including Lily's scrafice, possibly a 
> charm protection and giving a reason for Dumbledore's "gleam" in 
GoF.
> And I think, of course, it is only my opion, that my theory is as 
> sound as any other one that has been brought up to date.
> 

Well, we're pretty much told outright that it *was* Lily's sacrifice 
that saved Harry. It is said by Dumbledore in PS and again in more 
detail in OoP. So, again, why do you assert that "no one REALLY 
knows.." etc.? 

And, Fred, I'm not trying to be aggressive - I'm truly interested, OK?


Naama