Snape's part in death of Sirius

[Fred Waldrop]

No: HPFGUIDX 107973

Hello All, Fred Waldrop Here;

No offence, but where are you getting these facts below from?

My OOP says, (page 830)<"When, however, you did not return from your 
trip into the forest with Dolores Umbridge, Professor Snape grew 
worried that you still believe Sirius to be a captive of Lord 
Voldemort's. He alerted certain order members at once.">

It does NOT say ANYWHERE that he alerted them again later. It does 
go on to say... <"All agreed to go to your aid at once. Professor 
Snape requested that Sirius remain behind, as he needed 
somebody remain at headquarters to tell me what happened, for I 
was due there any moment. In the meantime he, Professor Snape, 
**INTENDED**(my emphasis)to search the forest for you.">

As you will notice, in this passage, we are NOT even sure that Snape 
went look for Harry and friends. As far as I can tell, he was 
standing at window, rubbing his hands together laughing under his 
breath thinking of all the horrable things that might be happening 
to Harry in the forest, seeing he hasn't got a wand to protect 
himself.

And seeing as there are no other passages about this, once more, 
where does everyone get all these "facts" below?

Fred

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wrote:
Potioncat:
Where does the 2 hours come from? Do we know how much time passed
between Snape discovering Harry was gone and his notifying the Order?

Neri:
The 2 hours came from Pippin's estimation. Lets check. We know for 
sure that Snape checked the first time with HQ after leaving 
Umbridge's office. It seems that his means of communication, 
whatever it was, was very fast or instantaneous, because he sent a 
question and got an answer that Sirius was indeed in HQ. We know 
that when he "grew worried" he contacted HQ again. So the time it 
took him to become worried was:
 
The time Harry and Co. spent in the forest +
The time it took them to fly to London +
The time it took them to find the prophecy +
The time they fought the DEs –
2 x The time it took Snape to contact HQ –
The time it took the Order members to get to the DoM once they got 
the message from Snape.

In my estimation it would be considerably more than 2 hrs.

Double-check: It is also mentioned that twilight was falling when 
Harry and Co. took off to London from the forest, and when DD sent 
Harry to his office after the battle it was already dawn (Harry can 
see the first light on the horizon from DD's window). So you can 
also calculate it as:

The time Harry and Co. spent in the forest +
The length of the night in Scotland in June –
2 x The time it took Snape to contact HQ –
The time it took the Order members to get to the DoM –
The time since they got there until DD sent Harry to his office.

IMO should be at least 4 hrs, more likely 5. Moreover, most of it 
was dark time. Snape waited at least 3 hrs AFTER DARK before 
he "grew worried" about six students and a teacher in the Forbidden 
Forest. Not responsible at all.    

Potioncat:
I am assuming, whatever the time, that the kids had left the forest
by the time Snape is looking there. Do we know "when" he found out
that anyone had left the castle?

Neri:
It would be very strange if he hadn't noticed for several hours that 
all the Inquisitorial Squad was hexed. At the very least someone 
must 
have noticed it (it must have been quite a BANG) and alerted him, as 
he was one of the senior teachers left in the school. How much time 
is it to question the Slytherins and find out what happened?
   
Potioncat:
This could be a fun, meaty thread to debate, but I do have one
major question. With all the errors we've made with Mark Evans and
the HBP: Is it your thought that JKR is showing us that Snape
delayed looking for Harry?
 
Neri:
Do you mean that it wasn't her intension and she didn't do the math 
of the timeline from everybody's point of view? Could be, but IMO 
this fits well with the pattern of Snape's carelessness and 
irresponsibility regarding Harry during the Occlumency lessons and 
especially after he stopped the lessons.
 
Neri