What Kreacher knew, was RE: Sirius's part

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 108080

> Pippin before: 
> > You left out 3) underestimating Kreacher. JKR has said we'll 
 understand why Sirius had to die. I think that means it wasn't a 
random killing.  Snape's involvement is a sideshow. 

> SSSusan again:
> Yikes--I certainly did!  That was a huge oversight on my part, 
> because of course you're right that he played a role in this 
death  as large as any of the others outside of Bellatrix & Sirius 
> himself.  
> 
> 
> Pippin:
with the last of  the Blacks dead, Kreacher could leave the 
house, thus escaping  further questioning. What did he know? 
Something about the  Malfoys? Or something about someone 
*in* the house<
> 
> 
> SSSusan:
> Hee!!  Look at you, Pippin--you didn't even use this perfect 
opening  to openly revisit your position that it was ESE!Lupin 
"pulling the  trigger" on Sirius! :-)  I will concede that **if**
Bella didn't  fire the final curse, then of course we'll have to open 
up the Blame  Game to whomever it was who did. [NEVER 
Lupin-no, no!!  He's ESS! Lupin (that is, Ever-So-Sweet!Lupin).] 
> 
> What is it that you suspect Kreacher knows that hasn't come 
out  yet?  DD already believes, after using his "persuasive" 
techniques  on Kreacher, that he was acting that night on the 
Malfoys'  instructions.  Do you think he knows *more* about 
them, or do you  think the "someone" in the house that Kreacher 
knows "something"  about is Lupin?<

Pippin:
I didn't want to drag the discussion into ESE!Lupin territory, 
because that would inevitably divert the discussion from what 
Kreacher knew to Lupin's character. 

(I apologize to those who have raised objections to ESE!Lupin
that have gone unanswered. The comprehensive ESE!Lupin 
post you deserve is being worked on--trouble is, it shows signs 
of rivalling the Crouch Ennead in length ;-) ) 

So, back to Kreacher...

The Malfoys have had experience with two treacherous House 
Elves now--unlike Sirius, they aren't likely to be indifferent to the 
danger that even some fact thought  too trivial to conceal could 
betray them. Narcissa is Bellatrix's sister and may have shared 
this information with her.

Further, Dumbledore's arrival tips the scales in favor of Harry's 
survival, and that means Kreacher's conversation with Harry will 
be discovered, if it hasn't been already. We don't know exactly 
how Kreacher was communicating with the Malfoys--but he had 
to have some way of knowing when it was time to injure 
Buckbeak and to signal  that he'd delivered his message to 
Harry. The DE's might not want their secret, secure means of 
communication discovered.

Then there  is the   evidence of  another spy. The last we heard 
Hermione thought Lucius had guessed   Sturgis Podmore was 
on guard  and Imperius'd him while he (Sturgis) was standing 
invisibly in front of the door to the DoM. Not up to her usual 
standard, that. 

Supposing you *can* put Imperius on an invisible person, 
(remember eye contact is important ), you wouldn't know it had 
taken. "...watch his eyes, that's where you see it-" GoF ch14. 

Lucius would want to be sure...pretending to be under Imperius 
would be an excellent way to set up a sting. 

Kreacher might not have the same clues that we have, as we 
don't have the same clues that Hermione has that Lupin is a 
werewolf.  But the Elf might have noticed something.

Pippin