What Kreacher knew, was RE: Sirius's part

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 108109

Pippin before: 
> > > You left out 3) underestimating Kreacher. < < <

SSSusan:
> > Yikes--I certainly did!  < < 

Pippin, also before:
> > > with the last of the Blacks dead, Kreacher could leave the 
house, thus escaping further questioning. What did he know? 
Something about the Malfoys? Or something about someone *in* the 
house < < <
 
SSSusan:
> > Hee!!  Look at you, Pippin--you didn't even use this perfect 
opening  to openly revisit your position that it was ESE!Lupin 
"pulling the  trigger" on Sirius! :-)  <snip> What is it that you 
suspect Kreacher knows that hasn't come out  yet?  

 
Pippin next time 'round:
> I didn't want to drag the discussion into ESE!Lupin territory, 
> because that would inevitably divert the discussion from what 
> Kreacher knew to Lupin's character. 
> 
> So, back to Kreacher...
> 
> The Malfoys have had experience with two treacherous House 
> Elves now--unlike Sirius, they aren't likely to be indifferent to 
> the danger that even some fact thought too trivial to conceal 
> could betray them. Narcissa is Bellatrix's sister and may have 
> shared this information with her.
> 
> Further, Dumbledore's arrival tips the scales in favor of Harry's 
> survival, and that means Kreacher's conversation with Harry will 
> be discovered, if it hasn't been already. We don't know exactly 
> how Kreacher was communicating with the Malfoys--but he had 
> to have some way of knowing when it was time to injure 
> Buckbeak and to signal that he'd delivered his message to 
> Harry. The DE's might not want their secret, secure means of 
> communication discovered.
> 
> Then there is the evidence of another spy. The last we heard 
> Hermione thought Lucius had guessed Sturgis Podmore was 
> on guard and Imperius'd him while he (Sturgis) was standing 
> invisibly in front of the door to the DoM. Not up to her usual 
> standard, that. 
> 
> Supposing you *can* put Imperius on an invisible person, 
> (remember eye contact is important ), you wouldn't know it had 
> taken. "...watch his eyes, that's where you see it-" GoF ch14. 
> 
> Lucius would want to be sure...pretending to be under Imperius 
> would be an excellent way to set up a sting. 
> 
> Kreacher might not have the same clues that we have, as we 
> don't have the same clues that Hermione has that Lupin is a 
> werewolf.  But the Elf might have noticed something.


SSSusan again:
Any of you out there ever have those days when you just feel DENSE?  
Where you feel like you need everything spelled out in detail?  
ANYBODY???

Well, I guess I need to ask some further questions of clarification:

1) Are you suggesting that it's Sturgis P. who might've been the one 
Kreacher has info on, that Sturgis was spying for Voldy?

2) Are you suggesting it might be Lupin even though you're not going 
to go into the details of that possibility again just yet?

3) Or are you merely suggesting that Kreacher could be dangerous just 
*because* the trail to Lucius & Narcissa could be made if Kreacher is 
found?

Siriusly Snapey Susan, fully aware that there might be more than 
one "yes" response within these three questions, and that there might 
also be a "Boy, you ARE dense, aren't you?" one as well.