What Kreacher knew, was RE: Sirius's part

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jul 29 20:18:26 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 108118

SSSusan:
> Well, I guess I need to ask some further questions of 
clarification:
> 
> 1) Are you suggesting that it's Sturgis P. who might've been the 
one  Kreacher has info on, that Sturgis was spying for Voldy?
> 
> 2) Are you suggesting it might be Lupin even though you're not 
going  to go into the details of that possibility again just yet?
> 
> 3) Or are you merely suggesting that Kreacher could be 
dangerous just  *because* the trail to Lucius & Narcissa could 
be made if Kreacher is  found?
> 
> Siriusly Snapey Susan, fully aware that there might be more 
than  one "yes" response within these three questions, and that 
there might  also be a "Boy, you ARE dense, aren't you?" one as 
well.<

Pippin:
You're not dense! JKR's plots are so convoluted that it's hard to 
untangle them even when she's given us the explanation at the 
end, and I'm trying to do it without that.

I don't think SP was spying for Voldie of his own free will. The  
scar pain Harry felt when Umbridge touched him (OOP ch 13), 
happened soon after   Podmore's conviction and  sentence to 
Azkaban (ch 14.)  and was probably Voldemort's reaction to 
hearing the news. LV  was happy about it--that wouldn't be the 
case of Podmore was working for him. 

I think Hermione was right that SP was under Imperius. Where I 
disagree with her is "what if he was standing guard by the door, 
invisible, and Malfoy heard him move -- or guessed someone 
was there - or just did the Imperius Curse on the off chance 
there'd be a guard there? So when Sturgis next had an 
opportunity--probably when it was his turn on guard duty 
again--he tried to get into the department to steal the weapon for 
Voldemort--Ron be quiet--but he got caught and sent to Azkaban" 
(OOP ch 26). 

Ron has just heard the name Voldemort spoken several times in 
this scene without flinching, he's probably reacting not to the 
name but to the implausibility of Hermione's suggestion. As 
Hermione herself will point out later in the story, it's a building
full of Aurors. Hardly the place to randomly fire the Imperius 
curse at an invisible person.  What if the invisible person had 
been Dumbledore himself? That would have been interesting! 

Acccording to Percy's letter, (OOP ch 14) Sturgis is a known 
friend of Dumbledore, but  Dumbledore has lots of friends. The 
DE's can't assume that Podmore is in the Order and has access 
to Moody's invisibility cloak  just because he's a friend of 
Dumbledore's. So if he didn't change sides, and he was invisible 
while on duty,  *how* did they know he was going to be in a 
position to break into a highly secure area in the middle of the 
night? 

The most likely answer is that somebody in the Order told them.


I am also suggesting that Kreacher had a means of 
communication with the Malfoys that they didn't want discovered. 
It could be a magical device like the mirrors or it could be a 
person, possibly the same person who grassed on Podmore.

And yes, it could be ESE!Lupin. But it could be ESE!somebody 
else, too.

Pippin






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