Three questions for ESE!Lupin

olivierfouquet2000 olivier.fouquet+harry at m4x.org
Mon May 3 16:44:23 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 97609

Pippin has been particularly active these days, attacking Lupin in almost every posts she 
wrote, so I feel I must step to his defense. I have got three questions to the ESE!Lupin 
theory. But before anything else, I've got a preliminary question: since when is Lupin on 
Voldemort's side? I haven't been able to figure that out clearly from Pippin's posts.

Moving on to my questions.

I) Why, if ESE!Lupin is true, didn't Lupin frame Sirius in PoA?
If Lupin had been with LV all along, he certainly knew Peter was the culprit, and Sirius 
innocent (Sirius says DE in Azkaban knew Peter's role). Lupin could have tell Dumbledore 
Sirius was an Animagus and have him kissed, potentially a good thing for LV.

As I understand it, the last version of ESE!Lupin holds that Lupin has a pathological need 
to be liked, regardless of his actions. That was supposedly his motive of him not telling 
Dumbledor. In other words, Lupin is thinking "Oh please, DD like me, I'm good, oh you 
don't like me enough, I turn to LV." Is that correct?


II) If it is, then here is ma second question. What would make Lupin believe if he'll be more 
liked in a Voldemort-ruled society than in a Dumbledore-ruled society? Who are the 
people that accept him regardless of his disease: DD, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Sirius, James, 
the Weasleys... In other words, the Order. Who are those who despise him: Dolores 
Umbridge, Fudge, Draco, Kreacher, Sirius' mother. In other words those who prize purity 
of blood above all. What makes him think the champion of racism will accept him and like 
him? 

Pippin has also suggested it has to do with the idea of orphan disease: Lupin would feel 
that the WW is not devoting enough energy to cure his illness. JKR should be quite 
concerned by that seeing her mother has died, victim of an orphan disease. Indeed, JKR 
herself has campaigned vigorously in favor of a better recognition by Scotland of the 
disease that killed her mother. She has also stated that she had written Lupin has a 
metaphor of someone handicaped. JKR certainly feels that her state does do enough for 
orphan disease. Has JKR turned to a racist party? Is she likely to?


III) My third question is somewhat not related and I have asked it before, but still, I haven't 
read a convincing answer yet. Why did Lupin fought so hard to keep Harry from jumping 
through the Veil after Sirius? 

Killer!Lupin theorists say that he has just killed Sirius in front of Dumbledore, and now he 
would be afraid of the idea of just letting Harry go? He could have told DD he was so 
shocked by the death of his best friend that he couldn't move a finger or anything else. 
Why did he do so much efforts (it is written that Harry fought viciously against him)?


I would like to conclude by exploring a possible parallel between JKR's mother and Lupin. 
It may seem strange to compare them, but both are victims of disease that cause intense 
pain, both are described by JKR has never loosing their temper, both are described as 
gentle and caring. I would go as far as saying that JKR could have considered writing Lupin 
as a woman, but that she renounced because she either thought the analogy would be too 
clear or because the parallel with Hermione (which is already very tempting) would seem 
too artificial (a trio in the past, a trio now). 

It has been pointed long long ago by Elkins that JKR seemed to have a problem with 
maternity in the sense that the ever-loving mother in HP are dead (Lily, Mrs. Crouch) while 
the living mother are absent (Hermione's), tempered housewives (Molly) or negative 
(Petunia, Narcissa, Mrs. Black...). Well, there is one sort of ever-loving "mother" in HP: 
Lupin.

Olivier

PS: don't take my last paragraph too seriously, I thought it funny to make Lupin the 
epitome of all good while Pippin makes him the incarnation of evil.







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