Harry Agonistes (was Re: Ever so evil ? was Dumbledore's role in Sirius' death

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 99220

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" 
<foxmoth at q...> 
> wrote:
> 
> Pippin:
> > I think JKR has made a great leap forward in good-vs-evil 
novels.  She has dared to make the good side morally complex. 
Unlike Tolkien or Star Wars <<

> Geoff:
> I think that there are plenty of morally complex characters in 
> Tolkien. <snip examples>. And, again, in the Narnia books, 
what  about Edmund in "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" 
and Eustace  Scrubb in "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader"? Not 
such well fleshed out  characters but both drawn towards the evil 
side.<

I didn't explain that well. I don't mean that the  characters in 
Tolkien, Lewis and Star Wars don't struggle with moral issues. 
What I mean is that when Aragorn says, 'Good and ill have not 
changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves 
and Dwarves and another among Men,' nobody thinks he's 
talking nonsense. And a similar sort of universal morality 
prevails in the Star Wars movies: the Jedi have been upholding 
one ideal of peace and freedom accepted across the galaxy for 
thousands of years

But Rowling's world doesn't have that kind of unity. 

Pippin