Vengeance on Snape?Re: Snape--Abusive?

[Tammy]

No: HPFGUIDX 116169


> Syroun asked:
> <Do we really know that [Snape was a spy for Dumbledore and not a
> member of the Order]?>
>  
> Sigune answered:
> > Well, 1) we know from OotP that he's not in the group photo of 
> > the Order Moody shows Harry; 
> 
> Syroun responded:
> > which proves nothing...
> 
> Carol notes:
> It may not *prove* anything, but it can't be discounted as *evidence.*
> And we do know that he was a spy for Dumbledore, unknown to Sirius,
> who also didn't know that Snape had been a Death Eater. It seems
> clear, as you admit yourself in the response to item 2, that he did
> not keep up with the professional progress of his adolescent enemy. If
> Snape had been in the Order, Sirius would have known about it.
 

Tammy butts in:

Snape was a spy, you know, as in secret sort of stuff? Of course
Sirius wouldn't have known what spies Dumbledore had. Most of the
Order wouldn't have known who were Dumbledore's spies. They all knew
he had some, no doubt, but the identity would have been secret. That
wouldn't preclude him from being a member of the Order however,
working for Dumbledore and the Order's interests in secret.

And, I can't imagine that every single member of the original Order is
in that picture. Imagine if everyone was in the picture and it somehow
ended up in Voldemort's hands. Of course, as a spy, Snape wouldn't
have been in the picture, wouldn't have been at the meetings.

> Sigune:
> > 4) if Snape knew Moody as a fellow Order member, he would have no 
> > reason to be so nervous around Fake!Moody in GoF, and he might 
> > have suspected he was facing an impostor when Moody kept lashing 
> > out at him.


Tammy butts in:

That's also not necessarily true, as Moody may not have known that
Snape was in the original Order. Even if he did know it, Moody's a
suspicious guy by nature, so he probably wouldn't have believed in
Snape's "goodness" even if Snape had shown up to every single Order
meeting.

-Tammy (who firmly believes in Snape's "goodness" somewhere so deeply
down inside of him that we may never see more than a hint of that
goodness.)