Timetravel again? (plus some unsolicited levity) Was: Re: Dumbledore

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No: HPFGUIDX 116636


Tyler wrote: 

>...Hermione even claims at the end of PoA that she's not sure--
HERMIONE DOESN'T FOLLOW IT.  Harry gets it--he really UNDERSTANDS 
time-travel.  And even though Hermione has time travelled all year, 
she has trouble reconciling her rules with the reality. Hermione was 
warned not to try to "change" things.  That bad things can happen.  
She was given rules, and Hermione LIKES rules and generally wants to 
obey them.  And rules are a good idea--as discussed, seeing yourself 
is likely to make you think some evil magic is afoot.  Bad things 
*can* happen, so it's better not to tempt fate--if you're time-
travelling DON'T BE SEEN. Could have have chosen not to cast it?  
Sure, but Harry would never choose to let himself, Hermione, and 
Sirius die.<

Finwitch responded: 

>Excellent post. That's how it is. <snip>  No, Hermione doesn't 
understand time-travel. Not back-wards with a time-turner, nor 
forwards by Divination.  Her utter demand for logic was enough for 
Trelawney to know her disability. Harry learned to understand time-
travel in the end of his third year, and early next year, Trelawney 
declares that he has the Sight. She ALSO knows Harry had a vision! 
That's what it means, I think - that you can SEE the reality of time.
<snip>

Kim comments:

I love reading such intriguing discussions of something (time-travel) 
that can't really happen... or can it?  ;-)

Finwitch continued:

>It's not about knowledge or logic, but about understanding and 
acceptance. Time's the fourth *dimention*. You move in both time and 
space. We all do. Because the Earth does. Because the Sun does. 
Because all the Galaxies, including the one we're part of, move. The 
dimentions, time, width, length, and depth, do not. They stay still, 
because they are eternal and need not go anywhere (or anywhen), 
because they are everywhere and everywhen.<

>That time would somehow move or change is an illusion, just as Moon 
remains whole, even though we only see parts of it or not at all. Sun 
never rises, but our planet rotates so that the light which travelled 
from where the sun was makes it seem like that to us, who are upon 
it.<

Kim again:

Hey, wait a minute, I thought I stayed still and everything else 
moved around me.  Or is it just that I feel so often like I'm running 
real fast but getting nowhere...

Kim (who, joking aside, is truly appreciative of other listers who 
think and write so beautifully)

P.S. May I suggest a book that touches on this topic? Einstein's 
Dreams, by Alan Lightman.