Snape and Harry again.

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> >
> > Alla earlier:
> >  I won't go into Prank now. Let me just say again - too much of
> > eveidence missing for me to conclude that he was murderous and
> > indifferent to the well-being of others.
> 
> feklar:
> 
> Umm, that's true for just about everything about the Marauders and 
Snape.
> Why ask a question about a topic with little objective evidence if 
you don't
> want to get answers based on little objective evidence?



Alla:


Who said I did not want want to get such answers? I was just 
disagreeing with your example, that is all. Not even disagreeing, 
just saying that FOR ME Prank is too incomplete an event to be an 
evidence of anything YET. Except the fact that Sirius hated Snape 
and vice versa.

As you could see, I was doing quite a bit of speculation in this 
thread last couple of days. It is only fair to expect from you to do 
the same, but FOR ME Prank is a canon event , which is already 
happened, that is why I want to know what really happened.

My liking of speculation has its limits , you see. :)



Alla:
> > Nope, I want to find the missing link first. But of course you 
maybe
> > right and I am wrong.
> 
> Feklar:
> 
> I don't think there is any such thing as right or wrong in literary
> analysis.  Even if JKR has a character affirmatively say 
something, it's
> always possible it will be an unreliable narrator and the world 
can continue
> to debate it.  Actually, I tend to think the more fully realized a 
character
> is, the more unreliable a narrator they will be, because they will 
always
> give a subjective view.



Alla:

I meant right or wrong in light of what JKR intended it to be. I 
think at the end of the series we we will know among other things 
what truly happened that night and then either your interpretation  
of Sirius' character or mine will be  closer to what JKR intended it 
to be.

Does not mean that either you or me have to abandon our 
interpretation even if it is totally different from what the author 
intended.



Feklar.
> I don't think anyone who has strong feelings about someone can 
possibly be a
> reliable judge of their character.  Whether they love or hate, 
their
> evaluation is always going to be tainted.  Above and beyond that, 
I think
> Sirius never truly saw Snape in the first place, which makes him 
even more
> unreliable.  but that is my theory to explain Sirius' apparently 
irrational
> hatred of Snape.


Alla:

That is begs the question, though. How many of the canon characters 
can we really trust?

Can we trust Snape, when he says that Sirius was capable of murder 
at the age of sixteen?
Can we trust McGonagall, when she say that Sirius and James were 
were her best students?
Can we trust Snape when he says that Harry is just like his father? 
(well, this one I actually think already had been proven wrong in 
canon)
Can we trust anything, which Dumbledore tells Harry at the end of 
OOP? After all Dumbledore confessed of loving Harry, maybe he still 
did not tell him everything.

You know, what I am saying? If we are to disregard the characters 
testimony completely , we won't be able to support our arguments 
with canon at all, IMO

Of course, I will take Sirius testimony as to Snape with some grain 
of salt, since they do have strong feelings about one another , but 
I won't disregard it completely