ESE! Ludo? (Was: Was Crouch Junior a DE? )

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 114229

> mhbobbin wrote:
><snip>
> Could the description [of the Third Death Eater] fit anyone else? 
Well, Ludo Bagman was once accused of being a DE, was very suspicious,
and he fits the description at the time LV makes the statement. He's
at Hogwarts. He has helped deliver Harry. And he is AWOL during Book Five.
> 
> And how about Fudge? He's one of the judges for the final Task, at 
> Hogwarts when LV describes the third DE.
> 
> Could Bagman be the First DE? Possibly. I like the words "he will 
> pay" as a clue. Then Karkoroff could be the second DE. Maybe he's 
> already dead. <snip>

Carol responds: 
Without getting into the actual argument here, since my view that the
three DEs are exactly who they seem to be (Barty Jr. the loyal one,
Snape the one who's left forever, and Karkaroff the coward) is
probably well-known here and I don't want to bore anybody, I think
there's new evidence that Ludo Bagman is not one of the three and is
in fact nobody very important, just a former Quidditch player who was
once duped by Rookwood. (Sure, we'll find out what the goblins did to
him in Book 6, but that may be the end of it.) I know the movies
aren't canon, but JKR does have a say in them, and Ludo Bagman does
not appear among the numerous characters listed at the IMDb or The
Pensieve, which is rather odd since (from a moviegoer's perspective)
it narrows the number of suspects who could have put Harry's name in
the Goblet. Here's a scene from the script of the First Task that
seems to confirm his absence:

http://www.pensieve.net/gofscript1.htm

Note that Ludo Bagman's role as the person in charge of distributing
the dragons has been given to a noticeably ailing Mr. Crouch, and some
of Ludo's lines have been given to the Twins (who aren't even present
in that part of the book). I know that discussion of the film itself
belongs in the Movie list, but I just wanted to mention Ludo's
apparent absence from the script as a fairly strong indication that
he's probably not one of the missing Death Eaters. If he were destined
to play an important role in the later books, JKR would surely have
insisted on keeping him in the film.

Carol, hoping that this post is sufficiently book-related to placate
the Elves