Back to narcissistic!Snape (was: Lucious, Severus, and Narcissistic PD)
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 14 03:59:13 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 127519
Naama:
Yes, Snape is very hung up on respect - but is not hung up at all
on admiration, IMO. ...I do remember Snape overhearing Harry and
Ron bad-mouthing him, and he doesn't care - he seems amused, if
anything. I also agree that while pleased with Draco's flattery,
he doesn't seek it.
Alla:
I meant to respond to this part of Naama's post earlier, but might
as well do it within Susan's post,since I am finding myself more and
more in agreement with her every time she defends this theory.:-)
So, question to Naama - could you please refer me to the incident
where Snape seems amused by Ron and Harry badmouthing him. I am not
being sarcastic, but I cannot remember anything of the sorts.
The only incident with similar circumstances which comes to my mind
and I am not sure whether you were talking about this one is when
Ron and Harry arrive to school in CoS and rush to Sorting.
"Hang on... Harry muttered to Ron. "There;s an emty chair at the
staff table... Where's Snape?"
...
"Maybe he's ill" said Ron hopefully.
"Maybe he's left," said Harry, "because he missed out on the Defense
Against Dark Arts job again!"
"Or he migh have been sacked!" said Ron enthusiastically. "I mean
everyone hates him--"
"Or maybe ," said a very cold voice right behind them, "he's waiting
to hear why you two didn't arrive on the school train." - CoS, p.78,
paperback.
If this is the one you are referring to, I see no sign of amusement
in Snape's voice, although remark by itself is entertaining to me,
sure.
But judging by the way Snape deals with it later on, I would say he
does care about what he overheard ( IMO only), because he does not
really bother like Dumbledore to figure out whay it happened. I
mean, sure it WAS dangerous, but I wonder how remarks like this one
is going to help to investigate what happened.
"So", he said softly, "the train isn't good enough for the famous
Harry Potter and his faithful sidekick Weasley. Wanted toa rrive
with a bang, did we, boys?" - CoS, p.78.
I think ( and this IS a speculation of course) that Snape IS annoyed
with boys badmouthing him earlier and now does the same "mature"
thing to them. JMO, of course.
SSSusan:
As I said before, I think once we know why Snape left Voldy, we'll
have a better chance of knowing whether Snape is a fairly healthy,
close-to-normal adult who just doesn't like to have his
pride/dignity assaulted, or whether he more closely fits someone
who's narcissistic. I'm afraid I'm still leaning towards the latter.
Alla:
And I am leaning with you for now :-) , although of course I agree
that it could be thrown out when we know why Snape deflected. Sorry
for basically snipping all your post, but you are doing such an
amazing job.
JMO,
Alla
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