Nagini as a Horcrux and the torturing of the Longbottoms

[Bonnie Harvey/ Alesia Gillefalyn]

No: HPFGUIDX 144393

Geoff:
There is no evidence that Voldemort created a Horcrux on this 
occasion. That he apparently used an Avada Kedavra curse on Frank 
Bryce does not mean that he then created one. This is supposition. 
It should also be realised that this killing was gratuitous - 
Voldemort had not been expecting to kill someone. He was more 
concerned in keeping his whereabouts under wraps and probably 
wasn't thinking about his Horcrux expansion programme at this 
point...


Alesia writes:
I have to agree with Geoff, I seriously doubt the Marauder’s Map 
is a Horcrux, especially since Remus mentions in PoA that Filch confiscated it from one or all of the Marauder’s the year they 
left Hogwarts.  

As to where the killing comes from for the Horcrux in Nagini, I always just assumed it was Bertha Jorkins.  Here is the way I 
have always read LV's relationship with Nagini:  He used her as 
a sergeant mother of sorts and suckled from her (either literally 
or magically) to help sustain his infantile form we see before 
the completion of the spell in the graveyard in GoF, (this 
explains his snake-like figures he has post ‘resurrection’).  The reason I believe the killing used to create the Horcrux!Nagini is because he had time and help.  Peter has already found and 
returned to him at this point.  We know from HBP that the 
creation of a Horcrux requires both a potion and a spell, 
therefore it make sense it requires some time to create.  Once he broke the memory charm on Bertha, LV knew he had to kill her, he 
had also started to formulate his plan to return.  One would 
think he would finish creating all of his Horcruxes prior to beginning his path to return.  

Has anyone ever suggested the DEs who tortured the Longbottoms, 
after the death of the Potters, for information about LV were 
really after the location of LV’s body? Could it be possible they were attempting to locate the body so they could reunite his soul (the vapor we see in PS/SS) and his body.   With Frank and Alice 
both being Aurors, it makes sense they might have known where the 
Ministry moved LV’s body to.  To me, it has always been pretty 
clear the way LV regained his body in GoF wasn’t the original 
plan and there was another way he had planned on had he still had 
access to his original body.  

We know at least one Death Eater, Malfoy, had a Horcrux, the 
diary.  It is possible based on LV statement about his followers 
knowing the lengths he had gone to cheat death, that there are 
other DEs with Horcruxes.  They may or may not know what the 
possessed, as there is some doubt Malfoy really knew what the 
diary was.   Since one of the Lestrange brothers appears to have 
been at Hogwarts with LV, wouldn’t have make him one of the 
‘closest’ to LV?

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Alesia