Cultural standards for Snape abusiveness, etc, etc
juli17 at aol.com
juli17 at aol.com
Sat Dec 10 05:58:25 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144440
Alla wrote:
Let's take a look at the good guys. Again, IMO.
Sirius went to Azkaban, which if you believe that he abused his power
over Snape could be considered as karmic punishment for that. Check.
Fred and George's Powder was used by DE to get into school, which if
you believe that they abuse their power in their pranks, could be
considered a karmic punishment for that. Check.
Whether you agree or not that Snape is an abuser, Jo said that he
abuses his power ( I am not sure how else teacher can abuse his power
but by abusing hi students, but different people interpret it
differently of course) , so I am not sure why Jo is going to make an
exception for Snape and let him go punishment free.
Julie:
But she already *hasn't* made an exception for him. After his actions
on the Tower, and even IF he is DDM, his life is screwed to hell. He's
lost his teaching position, any respect he had from his colleagues
and the entire WW, he's hated and villified by one side and has to
dance very carefully to avoid being obliterated by the other side (and
I'm convinced Voldemort still doesn't trust him completely, as he
doesn't trust *anyone* completely). He's given up everything he
earned over the past 16 years. So, Karmic punishment, check.
I also agree with whoever said Snape is his own worst punishment.
One of the things I've observed (and fully believe) after many years in
customer service, is that some people are simply miserable at heart.
They will treat others with complete nastiness, pleased to elicit fear,
humiliation and tears. And though I hate being on the end of that
sort of treatment, I always remind myself that while I have to put up
with the miserable person for a few minutes, that person is stuck
with himself 24/7. He's making himself far more unhappy, day in and
day out, than he can possibly make me during those brief, if very
unpleasant, minutes. And so Snape makes himself more miserable,
and on a prolonged basis, than he can possibly make Harry or
Neville during their thrice-weekly interludes in his class.
Alla wrote:
I don't remember her humiliating Neville in OOP or HBP at all. I do
remember her saying that " there is nothing wrong with your work but
a lack of confidence" ( paraphrase)
Julie:
Erm, but by OoTP Neville had become fairly competent at his
classes and spells. At least we don't hear of any major screw ups
of his again. So it's as likely McGonagall simply had no reason to
humiliate Neville again. Probably *more* likely, as we have no canon
that McGonagall regretted her actions against Neville. If she "learned"
from her mistake, wouldn't she have first admitted that it was a mistake?
Julie
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