Cultural standards for Snape abusiveness, etc, etc

juli17 at aol.com juli17 at aol.com
Sat Dec 10 05:58:25 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144440

 
Alla wrote:

Let's  take a look at the good guys. Again, IMO.

Sirius went to Azkaban, which  if you believe that he abused his power 
over Snape could be considered as  karmic punishment for that. Check.

Fred and George's Powder was used by  DE to get into school, which if 
you believe that they abuse their power in  their pranks, could be 
considered a karmic punishment for that.  Check.

Whether you agree or not that Snape is an abuser, Jo said that  he 
abuses his power ( I am not sure how else teacher can abuse his power  
but by abusing hi students, but different people interpret it  
differently of course) , so I am not sure why Jo is going to make an  
exception for Snape and let him go punishment  free.




Julie:
But she already *hasn't* made an exception for him. After his actions
on the Tower, and even IF he is DDM, his life is screwed to hell.  He's
lost his teaching position, any respect he had from his colleagues
and the entire WW, he's hated and villified by one side and has to
dance very carefully to avoid being obliterated by the other side  (and
I'm convinced Voldemort still doesn't trust him completely, as he
doesn't trust *anyone* completely). He's given up everything he 
earned over the past 16 years. So, Karmic punishment, check.
 
I also agree with whoever said Snape is his own worst punishment.
One of the things I've observed (and fully believe)  after many years in 
customer service, is that some people are simply miserable at heart.
They will treat others with complete nastiness, pleased to elicit  fear,
humiliation and tears. And though I hate being on the end of that 
sort of treatment, I always remind myself that while I have to put  up
with the miserable person for a few minutes, that person is stuck
with himself 24/7. He's making himself far more unhappy, day in and
day out, than he can possibly make me during those brief, if  very
unpleasant, minutes. And so Snape makes himself more miserable,
and on a prolonged basis, than he can possibly make Harry or 
Neville during their thrice-weekly interludes in his class.  


Alla wrote:
I don't remember her humiliating Neville in OOP or HBP at all. I do  
remember her saying that " there is nothing wrong with your work but 
a  lack of confidence" ( paraphrase)


Julie:
Erm, but by OoTP Neville had become fairly competent at his
classes and spells. At least we don't hear of any major screw ups
of his again. So it's as likely McGonagall simply had no reason to 
humiliate Neville again. Probably *more* likely, as we have no canon
that McGonagall regretted her actions against Neville. If she  "learned"
from her mistake, wouldn't she have first admitted that it was a  mistake?
 
Julie 


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