Dumbledore the General

northsouth17 northsouth17 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 9 07:17:44 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124245


> -- Kristen: 
> By the time the "war" started I think some said the order was out 
> numbered 2:1, and the order was being picked off one by one.   So I 
think 
> we can assume that DD was very active then but also had to figure 
out 
> a way to keep his "troops" from being destroyed.  I see them at 
this 
> point is more of a resistance group than the MOM army.   Just a 
> thought.

Northsouth17:
(Having read that through just now - Lupin says they were outnumbered 
20:1. Oh, cheer!)

DD troops get destroyed anyway. I went and counted for something else 
a few days back - of the 21 people in Moody's OoTP photo, 8 are dead 
in the war, 2 are tortured into insanity, one is traitor and one ends 
up framed and in prison. That's not a terribly good survival rate. 
Lupin tries to reassure Molly that they're better organized this time 
round, but honestly, am I alone in finding his comforting of Molly 
anything but reassuring? I've seen a lot of people saying that was 
really sweet..."We won't let them starve" is kind of nasty, IMO, and 
it's not like he reassures Molly that they'll be fine - just that her 
kids will outlive her - and Molly *dosen't argue*, she's not even 
expecting any further kind of assurance. 

I don't think the WW *has* an army, or even ever could. They have a 
police force, in Aurors, that maybe can function as a militia when 
they need to, but generally, considering that *every single memeber* 
of the WW is essentially *armed* and trained at least to some extent 
makes me think that any military action there would be rather fuedal -
 the entire population drafting up to the side of their choice, 
whether independently or following a leader (like DD or the Minister 
or LV). 

During VW1, it seems to have not gotten quite that far - there were 
no pitched battles, just terrorism from Voldemort, counter terrorism 
attempts from the Ministry and the Order doing...well, what was the 
Order doing? I imagine they were taking the fight to Voldemort, but 
rather poorly. DD would have set them up early, like now, but after 
the war broke out they would just be a mostly social group fumbling 
around for something to do, a home to misfits who wanted to fight but 
wouldn't be accepted into ministry ranks (Hagrid, Lupin, Fletcher). 
It looks to me like two guerrila groups battling eachother, with the 
Ministry probably not very tolerant of the Order anyhow.

Right, done rambling. 

Northsouth










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