Dumbledore the General
northsouth17
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Wed Feb 9 07:17:44 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 124245
> -- Kristen:
> By the time the "war" started I think some said the order was out
> numbered 2:1, and the order was being picked off one by one. So I
think
> we can assume that DD was very active then but also had to figure
out
> a way to keep his "troops" from being destroyed. I see them at
this
> point is more of a resistance group than the MOM army. Just a
> thought.
Northsouth17:
(Having read that through just now - Lupin says they were outnumbered
20:1. Oh, cheer!)
DD troops get destroyed anyway. I went and counted for something else
a few days back - of the 21 people in Moody's OoTP photo, 8 are dead
in the war, 2 are tortured into insanity, one is traitor and one ends
up framed and in prison. That's not a terribly good survival rate.
Lupin tries to reassure Molly that they're better organized this time
round, but honestly, am I alone in finding his comforting of Molly
anything but reassuring? I've seen a lot of people saying that was
really sweet..."We won't let them starve" is kind of nasty, IMO, and
it's not like he reassures Molly that they'll be fine - just that her
kids will outlive her - and Molly *dosen't argue*, she's not even
expecting any further kind of assurance.
I don't think the WW *has* an army, or even ever could. They have a
police force, in Aurors, that maybe can function as a militia when
they need to, but generally, considering that *every single memeber*
of the WW is essentially *armed* and trained at least to some extent
makes me think that any military action there would be rather fuedal -
the entire population drafting up to the side of their choice,
whether independently or following a leader (like DD or the Minister
or LV).
During VW1, it seems to have not gotten quite that far - there were
no pitched battles, just terrorism from Voldemort, counter terrorism
attempts from the Ministry and the Order doing...well, what was the
Order doing? I imagine they were taking the fight to Voldemort, but
rather poorly. DD would have set them up early, like now, but after
the war broke out they would just be a mostly social group fumbling
around for something to do, a home to misfits who wanted to fight but
wouldn't be accepted into ministry ranks (Hagrid, Lupin, Fletcher).
It looks to me like two guerrila groups battling eachother, with the
Ministry probably not very tolerant of the Order anyhow.
Right, done rambling.
Northsouth
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