Voldie Immortal?? -Speculation (rather long)

Peggy pegruppel at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 11 01:30:08 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 124320


> 
<Big Snip>

> bboyminn:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> In the same graveyard scene Voldemort says that the night of Godrics
> Hollow, one or more of his protections against death had worked, and
> that he/Voldie had gone father down the road to immortality than any
> other person. Although, he says he gone WAY down that road, it's 
clear
> he hasn't made it to his final destination yet.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> So, he can't be killed, but that doesn't mean attempts to kill him 
are
> not without danger and risk. 


Peg

I agree with no reservations!  I offered a possible mechanism for 
this state of affairs a couple of weeks ago:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/121546.  (I'm now 
celebrating my defeat of the evil Yahoomort!)

As I suggested in that post, if LV isn't quite "all there," any 
attempts to destroy him that don't take account of that fact are 
bound to fail.

bboymin:
 
> As to Voldemort's reaction to the Brother Wand incident, clearly
> things are not going the way Voldemort planned. He certainly didn't
> expext the wands to join and create the golden cage. He certainly
> didn't think Harry could overpower him and force the 'light beads'
> back into his own wand, and was appropraitely shocked when the most
> recent people he had killed started coming back out of his wand. All
> in all, it was a bad day for the Dark Wizard; frustrating and
> frightening. 

Peg:

I think this is because LV doesn't know that his wand *is* a brother 
to Harry's. That's something that Harry hasn't told even Ron and 
Hermione (GoF, p. 310, American hardback edition).  LV seems to go 
around acting on absolutely minimal information.  What a lousy 
strategist.

bboymin: 
> In the scene with Dumbledore at the Ministry Atrium where they 
dueled,
> I see nothing to indicate the Voldemort is any more or less fearful 
of
> death in the moment than Dumbledore, and for the record, Dumbledore
> seems pretty bold and confident. 

Peg:

Again, engaging in self-reference, my earlier post says it--LV 
doesn't know that he's not really all in one piece.  He doesn't know 
that another attempt on his life would have pretty much the same 
effect as on the night at GH--he'd be a disembodied intellect in need 
of a body (and that misplaced soul).  I believe that DD at least 
suspects the truth, even if he's not sure. DD has had fourteen years 
to work on the problem of what the heck happened in GH.  LV still 
doesn't know, he's been at something of a disadvantage while living 
most of the last few years as a disembodied intellect possessing 
snakes, Quirrel, or whatever, while DD had all of his faculties and 
resources for research.

bboyminn:
 
<more snipping>
> 
> PS: Climactic final scene, Harry hits Voldemort with an Accelerated
> Aging Curse and Voldie ages 500 years in 5 seconds; the curse didn't
> kill him, time and age did, witness the pile of Voldie dust on the
> floor. Bada-Bing Bada-Boom. You heard it here first.

Peg:

Well, I'd offer a different take on the final battle:

Harry, Ron, Hermione, Luna, Neville, and Ginny are all fighting their 
way through an invasion of DEs to the hiding place of LV's soul-
container, intent on freeing the trapped soul and allowing Voldemort 
to die.  Harry can only find it by looking into the Mirror of Erised 
again (now stored in the Chamber of Secrets), which has been 
bewitched to deliver the artifact to Harry by Dumbledore, just before 
his untimely death at the hands of Lucius Malfoy, who was then 
destroyed by Severus Snape.

Harry and friends are covered by Mundungus Fletcher, who is 
pickpocketing DE's wands and exchanging them for Fred and George's 
trick wands.  Fred and George themselves are setting off their 
fireworks that multiply with every attempt to destroy them, Arthur 
Weasley's car gives a ride to Aragog's children, who want to invite a 
few DEs to dinner.  Peeves is dumping water balloons on everyone in 
sight, the paintings are all shouting conflicting directions to the 
combatants, and Hogwarts castle itself contributes by shifting a few 
staircases, moving some doors, and adding a couple of trick steps 
that result in mass pile-ups on the stairs.  The suits of armor keep 
getting in the way of all the Dark spells and are being blown 
apart,leaving scattered pieces of sharp metal for the DEs to trip 
over.   

Bane and the other centaurs have finally realized that their readings 
of the stars have been wrong. They know now that it isn't Harry's 
destruction they've seen, but LV's.  They come galloping into the 
entrance hall, and add a few arrows to the chaos.  Grawp can't get 
inside, but the DEs don't dare retreat because he's out there, 
waiting for them with a dragon that Charlie Weasley has just 
thoughtfully shipped in from Romania.

Oh, and the teachers and students?  They and the house elves are 
safely tucked away in the Room of Requirement, which has turned into 
a big auditorium for the occasion.  There's a big screen at one end 
that gives everyone a good view of the action.

Snape, however, still bitching about how Harry is just like James, is 
paralyzing any DEs who *do* make it through the line of multiplying 
fireworks, exploding water balloons, centaur arrows, rubber chickens, 
annoyed tarantaculas, and bad directions.

Harry finally finds the Mirror, stands in front of it and desires to 
find the soul artifact.  A small statue of a snake drops into his 
pocket, as LV (wringing wet and carrying a toy parrot in one hand and 
his real wand in the other) finally makes it past Snape, who has just 
died to give Harry time to find the statue (finally redeeming himself 
to most members of the anti-Snape faction).  

One last time, LV has underestimated the competition, and finds that 
his soul is in the hands of his mortal enemy.  Harry smashes the 
statue, releasing LV's soul.  The soul then flees (who could blame 
it) and finishes the journey through the veil that it started sixteen 
years earlier.  LV collapses into a heap of robes containing a bit of 
powdered bone, a few drops of blood, and Peter Pettigrew's right hand.

OK, so it doesn't wrap up all the loose ends.  But it was a lot of 
fun to write . . .

Cheers!

Peg











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