JKR cheat with the prophecy - Point of Destiny

[Julia]

No: HPFGUIDX 124990


Dave:
> My only problem with it is this -- Where does Lily fit into it all?
> It's her protection that causes the AK to fail.  Would the same 
events have played out if V had gone after Neville first?
> 
> Maybe the thing that redeems the prophecy is that it's self-
fulfilling
> -- It comes true if and only if V believes it.
> 
> -- 
> Dave

Julia:
I think that this whole prophecy is really tricky thing. You see, 
lest's call the time when Trelawney makes a prophecy PRESENT and the 
time when it's fulfilled FUTURE.
IMO the whole thing is about that PRESENT is strongly detemined by 
FUTURE and vice versa. This is the nature of prophecy. 
When Trelawney makes this specific prophecy she tells DD about what 
EXACTLY is going to happen even though DD doesn't realise it yet 
(cause he doesn't know the future). 

How can we know that it doesn't concern Neville? How can we now know 
that the prophecy was never about Neville? Because the last part of 
the prophecy (about marking as an equal and powers that voldie knows 
not) can't refer to Neville. It's refering to what Lily did. 
This part is about the role of Lily - it was because of her that 
Harry has a power that Voldie doesn't know.

Of course DD couldn't know about it because as I said HE doesn't 
know the future so he felt obliged to protect both Baby Naville and 
Baby Harry. He didn't know about what Lily will do. But Trelawney 
predict it.

The significant part of the prophecy which tells us that it couldn't 
have been Neville and that the prophecy was in first place refering 
to exactly what happened in GH is the part about 'Voldemort marking 
the baby as his equal'. IMO it was a separate prediction that Voldie 
will choose Harry - because HARRY is his equal not Neville.

I know it's really complicated what I'm trying to say. Hmm... Let's 
look at the prophecy once again. I will show us that the prophecy 
isn't determining the circumstances that can lead to chosing Harry 
or Neville - IMO it's predicting not only that it will be Harry - 
that Voldie will choose him but also the sacrifice of Lily.

"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches"
- can refer to every child that will be soon born
"Born to those who have trice defied him, born as the seventh month 
dies"
- refer to the child of Longbottoms or Potters, they will have a 
child in late July (seventh month!)
"and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have 
power the Dark Lord knows not"
- it can refer only to Harry - he anly can be marked as equal to 
Voldemort and Voldemort can mark only him as his equal. This is the 
part which refers also to the sacrifice of Lily which provided Harry 
the power that Voldie doesn't know.

Of course you may ask how we can be sure that Mrs Longbottom 
wouldn't have done the same thing as Lily. I'm sure that she would 
have done the same but I'm sure that she wouldn't have had the 
chance - Voldemort would have never marked Neville as his equal.

I even believe that the prophecy had been changed after trelawney 
started saying it. After the words "born as the seventh month dies" 
the eavesdropper was thrown out of Hogs Head - that event determined 
the rest of prophecy about marking as an equal. The fact that 
Voldemort knew only the first part led to decidion about choosing 
the most dangerous child - his equal.

The prophecy is a tricky thing cause it connects present and future. 
It's good to realise that every action can affect future and when 
the prediction is made it includes every action that can affect the 
future (for example an eavesdropper). The prophecy isn't a 
possibility of what may happen in the future depending on our 
choices.It predicts our choices (nothing can change it - neither 
going into hiding nor choosing Peter as a secret keeper...)

Julia