I am Woman Molly WAS Re: Mother Molly

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 125327



> Tayla:
> I firmly believe that we are being too hard on her.  Nobody is 
perfect, and I have to say that being a parent is sometimes too hard 
to deal with at times.  
> <snip>
> I would be proud as hell if I had that many children that were 
doing so well.
> 
Valky:
So far I am in complete agreement. This half of Molly's 
characterisation IMO is precisely as you have put it.
OTOH I am a mother too, and I know that there is more to who I am 
than the way I raise my kids. (Although that is a greater proportion 
of my life than else things usually)
This is where *I* am coming from about Molly. She is an individual 
person (read character) with a personal *I* that is not just "Mother 
Weasley", and with the depth of characterisation that JKR is capable 
of the canon Molly WE know is likely to have this *I* persona all 
her own, just like the rest of us mothers. 


Tayla:
> Percy wasn't keeping things from his family because of a percieved 
lecture from Molly, more so I believe he was keeping to himself 
because he didn't want to give F&G any more ammunition to use 
against him, and Molly would probably slip up at some time.  Percy 
has always shown that he was embarassed about his family and the way 
that would affect his abilities to "climb the drapes".  Is that 
Molly's fault?  

Valky:
Sounds like you are accusing Percy. 
They are both imperfect, but my theory draws on the canon closeness 
between them to suppose that Percy was a highly aware young man who 
managed to attune to and perceive his mothers personal battle with 
her isolation as a "Blood Traitor". 
Children like this are usually A grade high achiever students who 
take responsibilties for the care of their younger siblings. Percy 
fits this bill perfectly.  
Molly is an isolated lady in the WW, we haven't been explicitly told 
this about Molly in canon, but the dress robes scene with Ron 
suggests that Molly deals with the same thing Ron does at the Yule 
Ball every day in her own life, Mrs Blacks Portrait gives us insight 
into the types of things Molly would encounter in the Wizard Mall if 
she came across Narcissa and her band of friends, and quite possibly 
other witches too, the way Arthur is denied respect at the Ministry 
suggests that Molly might deal with the same disregard in the WW 
herself, her concern for the children being seen as proper and 
perfectly behaved, her panicking whenever Arthur is under any threat 
at the ministry, and Percy's "embarrasment" about his family, REALLY 
back it all up. And in summation, Molly has personal stuff to deal 
with that *isn't* mothering.


Tayla:
> Molly is emotional, and whether or not she is childish (and many 
women have this tendency) at times, that does not make her 
the "toxic" monster that some of these posts have tried to make her 
out to be.
> 

Valky:
I hope I have shown that my personal contribution to the discussion 
is not with intent to prove that Molly is "toxic", but rather to 
prove that she is a woman of her own beyond all this contemplation 
of her characterisation as a mother.

Tayla:
> My opinion, I apologize to anyone whom I may have offended.
>

Valky:
Not offended :D But still clarifying my position.