Suggestions please: Mysteries

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 121906


ms_luna wrote:
> I am re-reading GoF and I noticed something that may be important to
this discussion about Crouch Jr.,  When Mr. Crouch, Sr comes stumbing
out of the Forbidden Forest after escaping from LV and he is talking
to the tree...he says something very interesting, He  says that his
son received 12 OWLS...yes, we are very proud of him.  So, doesn't
this mean that Barty Jr., had the potential, even at Hogwarts to be a
very powerful wizard?  He had it in him, and probably would have
learned Dark Arts from the DE's very quickly.  I had thought it
unlikely, at first that he would have been able to REALLy participate
in the torture and what not that the DE's were doing, but now that I
have noticed this little phrase, I have to re-think my first supposition.

Carol responds:
I agree. I made the same point in the second paragraph of my post 121641,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/121641 ,

which argues that Barty's intelligence, power, determination, and
desire for revenge enabled him to perform Unforgiveables and other
difficult magic at Hogwarts despite a year in Azkaban and twelve years
under the Imperius Curse. Absolutely he had to have learned the
Unforgiveable Curses as a DE; we know that he helped to Crucio the
Longbottoms into insanity, and he must have learned AK and Imperius
there as well. He may have been only nineteen, but he was a quick
study and a fanatic. We're told that his father was a very powerful
wizard; Barty Jr. seems to have inherited that power. As I said in my
other post, he and his father are tragic figures, talented men whose
talents could have been used for good but who instead brought ruin on
themselves and each other.

Carol, wondering whether Barty Jr. was a Slytherin; he seems more like
a ruined Ravenclaw