The Cave, the Bible, the Passing of the Baton...

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 134357

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:

Vivian:
> When Dumbledore does see Snape his comments to Snape may very be 
> echoing the Bible's: "Why have you forsaken me" Snape? (JMO) 
> Did Dumbledore die for Snape's sins? 
> 
> If so, Snape has made a crucial error in killing Dumbledore. Martyred 
> people often become stronger when they die. And their followers often 
> become braver, and more focused. (Didn't Judas allegedly hang himself 
> over the guilt?) 
> 
> So, will Dumbledore rise from the dead before passing through the 
> veil? 

Geoff:
These are not really parallels because Jesus' call "Why have you 
forsaken me is to God the Father. Because he was being crucified to 
carry the sins of the world, God for that moment turned away, hence the 
cry.

It was nothing to do with Judas, who did indeed commit suicide; that is 
in the Bible narrative.

Regarding the question of martyrdom strengthening people or their work, 
I think that Dumbledore is (or was) strong enough already. It might be 
interesting to see how events work out with some of the others - Malfoy 
for instance who seems very uncertain of where he stands at the moment.