Harry's entitlement - Long!(was Re: "Some won't like it".)

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No: HPFGUIDX 130021

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "phoenixgod2000" <jmrazo at h...>
wrote:

> I have a minority opinion of one on this list apparently. I don't 
> think Harry's attitude has much to do with him being a teenager and 
> everything to do with being Harry.  Harry is a doer. he needs to 
> feel like he is participating and helping out with the war effort. 
> shutting him in Hogwarts drove him about as insane as Sirius went 
> over at the GP.  Virtually any other teenager would have either 
> passively went along with the order (Hermione, Neville) or grumbled 
> about being treated like a kid but still not done much (Ron, 
> Ginny).  Harry is proactive in a way that no other character in the 
> book is and no one in the order honored that. Frankly I think they 
> could have gotten away with hiding a whole lot more from Harry if 
> they just made him feel like what he was doing mattered to the war 
> effort. 

Yes, excellent point

if Dumbledore or Snape connected learning occulomency to 
> some kind of reward like becoming a junior member of the order or 
> some knowledge about what was going on, I think Harry would have 
> thrown himself into the lessons with gusto, regardless of who was 
> teaching them. 

This I don't agree to at all. We are talking about a higly dangerous
membership of a secret order in a war. You get in because you are
useful and know how to handle yourself, in other words because you
have a certain level of maturity so people can count on you. It is not
a reward for being a good boy. What Harry shows throughout the book is
that he is not fit to be a member of the Order. He has not the
necessary level of maturity yet. Maybe he will do some growing up over
the summer so he can be a part, but the Harry in book 5 is far too
immature, and therefore too much a danger to the others. 

Gerry