"Some won't like it". The Scar Connection Implications.

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 130033

Phoenixgod:<snipped lots of excellent stuff>

Valky:
Wow, Phoenix, I totally agree with almost all your points in that
post.. Except for just this one, so I just need to ask you about it.

Tonks wrote:
> > And the bottom line is, of course, if Harry had listened and done 
> > what was expected of him we wouldn't have a story would we? 
>

Phoenixgod wrote: 
> And if Dumbledore were competent the world wouldn't have to 
> repeatedly rely on a scarred kid to save the school every year, but 
> there we are.
> 

Valky:
Ouch! That takes a really hard line with Dumbledore, personally. I
mean, I adore the Marauders and they are pretty hotshot themselves, so
is it fair to say that DD is the only one who might potentially take
this burden from Harry? To be honest I think that DD, James Lupin and
Sirius, Lily the Longbottoms, the list goes on of strong powerful
wizardkind who have done their plain darndest to take matters into
their own hands. Somehow someway Harry was chosen for the job, despite
the sincere efforts of Dumbledore. Its a sad but true reality in the
plot, and I really can't blame the old bloke for that. 

Oh By the way Phoenix....
Tonks wrote:
> >We wouldn't have an example of why we should listen to the 
> > voice of reason over emotion.  Now there is a lesson Snape can 
> > give.
> Phoenixgod:
> You're kidding right? You cannot possibly mean that Severus Snape 
> should serve as an example of emotional control and the triumph of 
> reason over emotion. the same guy who hates a child he's never met 
> based on looking like his high school bully father? the same guy who 
> thinks that humiliating childern is jolly good fun? That guy?
> 
> unless you mean as an object lesson, ie 'never turn out like that 
> guy'
> 

Valky:
Woohoo here here! I don't think that Snapes voice of reason came
through all that clearly through the ice cold unfeeling barricade he
put up around it. IMHO what phoenixgod posited is fair to say, Harry
was desperate to have a reason that he could believe in, that
Occlumency was a hope for the good of something. Snape represents it
as a self effacing barely necessary precaution, which is hardly the
fair truth or a voice of reason. At least Hermione expresses a
reasonable concern for what might happen if he doesn't successfully
learn it, Snape as good as rebukes the notion that anything will
happen. He even directly  rebukes notions that Harry would be of any
interest to Voldemort.