[HPforGrownups] SHIP Re: Sirius and Remus

LilyBella lilybella719 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 24 07:22:16 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 131355

Im not replying to anyone specifically and I dont
usually get into these kinds of debates, but this was
one I couldnt resist, simply because I do not now,
nor have I ever understood the Sirius/Remus ship for
numerous reasons. I wont go into them all now; Id
end up writing an essay, but well 

Before Azkaban, Sirius and James were best friends.
There is no denying that, and Ive always gotten the
impression that no one ever came before James as far
as Sirius was concerned, before or after his
imprisonment. I think because Sirius had James,
someone he loved, someone he depended on, he didnt
really care for or bother with romantic relationships.
Thats not to say I think James and Sirius were lovers
(you can, however, interpret it that way if you like),
I just dont think he felt the need for a girlfriend
(or boyfriend, if you prefer) in his life because he
already had someone who fulfilled him. Thats not to
say he didnt date, I imagine he dated plenty, I just
dont think he was ever serious with anyone, and I
think this can be backed up by a JKR quote about
Harrys christening from the Edinburgh Book Festival
that was pointed out earlier:

*Does Harry have a godmother? If so, will she make an
appearance in future books?

No, he doesnt. I have thought this through. If Sirius
had married Sirius was too busy being a big rebel to
get married. When Harry was born, it was at the very
height of Voldemort fever last time so his christening
was a very hurried, quiet affair with just Sirius,
just the best friend. At that point it looked as if
the Potters would have to go into hiding so obviously
they could not do the big christening thing and invite
lots of people. Sirius is the only one,
unfortunately*

I imagine if Sirius were in a serious relationship
with anyone they would have been invited to the
christening with him. Going by this quote, however,
not even Lupin was invited. If he and Sirius were
lovers at this point, I think itd be safe to assume
hed be there to witness something like that, but she
said it, Sirius was the only one and what reason would
there be to say Lupin wasnt there? Especially when
some people seem to think JKR set out for Lupin and
Sirius to be partners, youd think shed be happy to
give that little detail. Itd only serve as more
evidence.

After Azkaban, not only do I doubt one of Sirius main
priorities was to find himself a shag partner, but GoF
canon shows us after Harry discovered the truth,
Sirius spent another year hiding out with Buckbeak, no
mention of Lupin anywhere until Dumbledore asks Sirius
to hide out his place at the end of the book. The
argument stands if they were lovers, why wouldnt
Sirius go to Lupin instead of living off rats to be
near Harry? Surely Harry could have kept Sirius just
as updated at this ex-professors house than with him
living in a cave, not to mention there would have been
food, a place to bathe

By the time we see Sirius again in OotP, hes not the
same guy he was in GoF. Hes constantly depressed,
often immature, and it seemed to me that Lupin was at
Grimmauld Place more out of the need to watch Sirius
in the way a mother watches a child, rather than two
friends living together because welljust because. I
think at this point, Lupin couldnt have had a
relationship with Sirius he was too damaged; it
wouldnt have been healthy, not for either of them.
Lupin wouldnt have allowed it.

LilyBella







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