A question on Sirius and his vault - Hagrid, Molly, Harry, Goblins

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 126861


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "finwitch" <finwitch at y...> wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
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> > 
> > More significant is the fact the Molly Weasley has accessed Harry's
> > bank vault several times, most of those times (only) with Harry's
implied
> > permission, but none that I can recall in which Harry gave his direct
> > expressed or written permission. 


> Finwitch:
> 
> Well, the text doesn't *say* Harry gave Molly a letter, his key or
> anything like that, but that may just have been cut off. (You know,
> like not describing Harry using a toilet, just say that he was let 
> out of his prisonlike bedroom twice a day to do so...)
> 
> ...edited...
> 
> Finwitch

bboyminn:

Here is the problem I have with this idea that Harry gave Molly the
his vault key or some other official authorization off-page. In some
cases, Molly does say before the fact, that Harry should give her his
School Supplies List and she will pick things up for him. If there was
going to be a direct and literal authorization by Harry that would
have been the time for it. 

In other cases, Molly doesn't even tell Harry what she has done until
after that fact, sort of, 'oh, by the way Harry, while you were gone,
I picked up your school books, and a bag full of gold'. 

In these matter-of-fact, after-the-fact cases,  Harry is not extremely
shocked or surprised, he also doesn't seem to acknowledge that he knew
Molly was off doing this for him. He certainly doesn't object, but
neither is there any indication that he knew what Molly was going to do.

So, while I can't discount it, I personally find the idea that Harry
gave Molly official authorization off-page a little weak. Again, I'm
not implying that it's wrong, only that my read of the text more
strongly implies Molly acting on her own, than Harry giving expressed
permission. 

So, from my perspective Molly has not expressed but implied permission
to act on Harry behalf, and that somehow the Goblins know that this is
a genuine valid request for funds on the behalf of the Vaults true owner.

As far as books and supplies, I could see Molly simply saying, 'Send a
bill to Gringotts and have the funds withdrawn from Harry Potter's
account'. That's not that far outside normal business practice. But
how is Molly able to get hard cold cash from Harry's account? The only
way I can explain that and remain consistent with the way I read the
books, is to offer the explanation above and in my previous post.

Trying to work out how the wizard world works off-page is one of the
things I enjoy most.

Steve/bboyminn