Possessing the possessor, not Horcrux!Harry

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 3 06:27:59 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 142451


> > bboyminn:
> > I could picture the final struggle between Harry as a test of
> > wills ...edited Voldemort has Harry down and weak, ...edited.. 
> > Voldemort possesses Harry. Harry fights the possession..edit..
> > ... he is determined to not be controlled and to win, even though 
> > the odds are massively against him. In the struggle to throw off
> > Voldemort's possession, Harry accidently turns the tables and
> > possesses Voldemort. ....
> 
> Jen: Your thoughts reminded me of an excellent post by annemehr 
> about this issue (link below). She made a good case that Harry was 
> on the 'threshold' of possessing Voldemort in his dreams (i.e. the 
> snake biting Arthur, seeing Voldemort in the mirror), but didn't 
> take the step of forcing his will upon Voldemort's body, the final 
> act for completely possessing him. 
> 
> bboyminn:
> > Of course, this doesn't necessarily eliminate the possibility of
> > Harry sacrificing himself. I could fit this in very nicely with my
> > speculation that the final battle will occur in front of the 
> > Veiled Archway of Death. I could speculate that while Harry may 
> > dominate and possess Voldemort, that doesn't solve the problem. 
> > Somehow Voldemort has to be destroyed. I could picture Harry 
> > taking control and dragging himself and Voldemort along with him 
> > through the Veiled Archway. 

Valky:
SOLD!!!! <g> 
You know I have always loved your thoughts on Harry going through the
veil and what he might find there, Steve. And I have clung to the
faint hope that despite JKR's firm declaration that the dead are dead
are dead in the Potterverse, and entertained the notion that Harry
*will* go through he veil *and* return *and* will experience golden
moment with his loved ones on his way that we talked about long ago. 

Was it too much to ask? Well yes, it was too much for Harry!crux, or
Lone Harry!crux, as I have always maintained and it is true, I only
support Hary!crux in that it randomly comes up as an end of countless
paths of deduction. 

My favourite example (Harry!crux's distant cousin):
Dudders said it *was too* Harry who had scared him silly when the
Dementors attacked him - it's hidden in plain view. Think JKR doesn't
do this to us? Try the vanishing cabinet in HBP, paraphrase - Harry:
Did you see what he was pointing at? Hermione: He was standing behind
that cabinet. Draco was pointing at the cabinet! And there is always
COS when Ginny looks horrified at Harry when he drops the diary, but
so what hey, Ginny is nervous around Harry maybe not *that* nervous...
If you want Dudley's worst memory then *believe him* it "was" Harry.


That said, I will add that I am not giving up Harry!crux completely
*quite* yet, but I am certainly willing to put it aside for this
excellent Powers theory of Harry possessing Voldemort and walking them
both through the veil together using his will. I mean, Harry could
come back! possibly~ since technically it's Voldemort's body going
through the veil and not Harry's. And Harry would for certain call
Sirius to his side to help him once he's in there then maybe some
others as well... I mean how many dead *friends* does Voldie have? <g>
 
Now I don't know if there are any listees still interested in the
mythological Horcrux parallels, but a walk through death's gate to
find the great 'dog' guardian of the underworld and drag him back was
Hercules *last* labour. (Yes, Sherrie, Jen, fellow Sirius fans, it
says Sirius *might* come back ;D) but up til now, I wasn't able to
think of *anything* that enabled Harry to possibly~ walk through the
veil without dying. Whats more, it explains why JKR *had* to send
Sirius through the veil. I mean, who else would he think of calling
out to for help in the moment of his death? Sirius *has* to *be there*
for Harry. 

Now for some logistics: Lets say Harry walks possessed!Voldie through
the veil.. Where is Harry? What is Harry? Is he just a soul in the
underworld? did he leave his body behind? If he brings Sirius back
does SB come back bodily or does he come back as a part of Harry? 

Any takers?

Valky
Cheering for Carol, bboymn and Jen (and annemehr) for introdducing the
most bloody brilliant alternative (or addendum) to Harry!crux.











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