The Iron Fist of Will - body/body or body/spirit

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 142554


> a_svirn:
> > 
> > What distinction? Were there any demons in the Garden of Eden?
> 
> Ceridwen:
> Not that I recall from the Biblical accounts.  The serpent offers 
> possibilities, but most point to him as the possessed 
manifestation 
> of the devil.
> 

a_svirn now:
Here we go then. The Serpent did have a body, didn't he? That of a 
serpent at least.

> Ceridwen:

> Claims of having relations and bearing children to these 
disembodied 
> spirits are false.  Confessions were made to make the torture 
stop, 
> and they repeated what their torturers insisted they repeat.
> 


a_svirn:
Oh, they never claimed to have consorted with *disembodied spirits*. 
On the contrary they gave a very detailed account of their bodies 
and especially genitalia. And since they were – as you very justly 
pointed out – made to repeat these claims, I'd say that predominant 
and OFFICIAL view on demons and even on the Devil was that they were 
corporeal beings (at least occasionaly).