PoA - Snape knew?/Who is the real dark character in the series?

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Colebiancardi wrote:
>
> Ha! It is now past midnight and I can post again :-) Yeah!! 

Alla:

LOL! I was going to go to bed, but decided to post again before I go 
since it is past midnight here too.


> 
> colebiancardi: there is a difference between rationalizing ones
> actions and having a PLAN. Why didn't Harry ask for help from 
Ernie?
> Why did he have to "go it alone" with Snape?

Alla:

Because he did not have time to formulate a plan, maybe? Because not 
even minutes passed since he witnessed Dumbledore's being murdered?




 > colebiancardi: 
No, I am not asking if Harry should think that. Of
> course not. But Harry should think gee, what if I die going after 4
> DE's(one who is a werewolf), Draco & Snape? What are the odds on my
> surviving THAT one? Snape "killed" DD, but was it on DD's orders?
> Are you stating that doesn't matter at all, if that is what it 
turns
> out to be? Or maybe Snape didn't kill DD, that he released him from
> whatever was keeping DD alive the whole year – as that is my
> interpretation with the hand injury and the general weakness of DD 
and
> his impatience with Harry about Slughorn's memory. I believe that 
DD
> knew he was out of time. And so did Snape.

Alla:

I think this is extremely unrealistic to expect Harry to think what 
if I die at this point,when again VERY short time passed since he 
seen Dumbledore being murdered. I don't think anything else was on 
his mind, I don't think anything else COULD be on his mind. Of 
course, JMO.

Now, if Harry decides to pursue Snape with SAME firceness say in 
three - four months after those events, I MAYBE begin to see your 
point, but to expect sixteen year old to just witness a murder and 
to start thinking that maybe that was all part of the plan, I am not 
even close to understanding your argument. Sorry!


ColebiancardI
<SNIP of the quote that could be read UPTHREAD>:

That quote tells me that Harry wants more & more fuel to
> add to his fire, his grudge – he wants to further it with more & 
more
> details – from other's POV, of course.


Alla:

I guess I am not expressing myself clearly again - I just think that 
it is a weak support for the "Harry wants to further his grudge 
against Snape" line of argument to look at ANY " antiSnape" actions 
or thoughts  by Harry right after Dumbledore's murder.

I would say that Harry blaming Snape for Sirius' murder would be a 
stronger support for this argument ( that is of course if Snape did 
not pass any info to Voldemort), but here we have Snape committing 
what at least LOOKS like a crime ( well, I am pretty convinced that 
it was a crime, but I realise that reasonable minds could differ :-
)).

I think that Harry would have had a grudge against ANY person who 
would have killed Dumbledore, regardless of what he felt about such 
person previously . IMO of course.


Colebiancardi:
<SNIP>
>> Snape's grudges were also Sirius's grudges – I don't remember 
anyone
> stating Sirius needed to let go of his grudge towards Snape. 

Alla:

Plenty of people stated that, actually, myself included, BUT 
regardless of what I think about both characters I think that having 
a nice job as Hogwarts professor is much nicer environment to get 
rid of the grudges if one so desires than twelve years in Azkaban, 
where dementors make you concentrate on your grudges over and over 
again.

In any event, Snape and Sirius are adults and them holding grudges 
is what made me love reading fanfictions about them. :-)



> Colebiancardi – ahhh, when is book 7 coming out? LOL.
>

Alla:

I think this is the part of your post which I am wholeheartedly 
agree with. :-)

Alla,

who is really going to bed now, really.