Dumbledore's pleading

Renee R.Vink2 at chello.nl
Wed Oct 12 08:24:34 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141491

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Nicolau C. Saldanha" 
<nicolau at m...> wrote:
>
> > >Alla:
> > > <snip> DD sacrificing himself for kids is perfectly IC for 
> > > DD as I read him, Dumbledore sacrificing Snape is something
> > > I cannot see no matter how hard I try (that killing hurts 
> > > the soul stops me).
> 
> > Renee:
> > But Alla, can't you envisage a situation where the soul is hurt 
> > anyway, whatever happens? If Snape doesn't fulfil the UV and the 
> > result is that Draco is killed by the DEs or Voldemort, do you 
> > think he'd arrive in the hereafter with an unscathed soul, just 
> > because he hasn't actively killed? He'll have failed, even 
> > betrayed Narcissa and Draco (and I won't buy the argument that 
> > this doesn't matter because they're DEs), and Draco's death will 
> > hurt his soul no less than Dumbledore's, because this death can 
> > be laid at his door. (Not to mention that Harry might die, too.)
> > 
> > Snape's soul is tainted whatever he does or omits. And if 
> > Dumbledore is aware of the UV, he knows this. So he tries to 
> > limit the damage to other people than Snape. 
> 
> 
> I agree with Renee that the sitation was such that if Snape 
decided 
> to kill DD in order to save Draco, Harry, himself and remove the 
DEs 
> from Hogwarts before someone else is killed, I for one would not 
> find him guilty of murder, I would say that he had to take a quick 
> decision in a situation of great stress and that his choice may 
have 
> been the lesser evil. However, I agree with Alla: I can not see DD 
> pleading for Snape to follow this path, especially given the 
> "killing hurts the soul" theory. I can believe that DD would 
> understand and forgive, yes, but not plead. JMO, of course.
> 
Renee:

Well, if Jesus can say to Judas: `Do what you have to do' - and I 
assume we all know what it is Judas did - , I believe DD can ask 
Snape to kill him, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was what JKR 
had in mind. 














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