Voldemort killed personally?

Hagrid aussie_lol at yahoo.com.au
Sat Aug 19 16:12:06 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 157144


> Tamara:
> Who has Voldemort killed personally [...]?
> 
> Hickengruendler:
> In chronological Order (as far as I remember):
> Moaning Myrtle [...]
> His Father Tom Riddle senior and the elder Riddles [...]
> Hepzibah Smith [...]
> Dorcas Meadows [...]
> James and Lily Potter [...]
> Maybe Bertha Jorkins [...]
> Frank Bryce [...]
> Maybe Amelia Bones [...]
> 
> Geoff:
> Regarding moaning Myrtle, surely the Basilisk killed her,
> according to her own testimony in COS.

Aussie now:
They are only the ones we know of. Not only is there a BIG pause 
between Hepzibah Smith and the Potters (with only Dorcas known of 
between) but also, is that enough to create 5 Horcruxes prior to 
James/Harry's AK-ing? 

The grandparents may not have been worthy of making Horcruxes from. 
Myrtle was an oppertunistic death by the Basalisk, not pre-meditated.

Tom travelled mainland Europe before returning to Hogwarts greatly 
changed. More murders may have been committed there leaving a trail 
for Harry to find Horcux clues.

aussie (wondering if this was your reason for asking thoe question 
in the first place)

> 
> Tinktonks: <SNIP>
> 
> Frank Bryce we know LV killed personally in the fetal form with his
> own wand because Harry's 'dream' and Priori Incantatum support 
this.
> (Which also concludes Dumbledore is wrong that LV uses Nagini.)
> 
> DD being wrong about using Nagini to kill Frank Bryce opens up an
> important question for me though. DD seemingly thinks that Nagini
> killed FB on LV's orders, he also thinks that Nagini was made a
> Horcrux with FB's murder.
> 
> Is this a clue? Is DD's mistake (something that is pretty darn 
rare)
> JKR's way of sneakily telling the reader that you don't need an AK 
to
> create a Horcrux? Even though FB was AK'd (or so it would appear
> given the green light although the words were not destinguishable
> over the scream) DD does not think he was and still believes it is
> possible for a Horcrux to have been made from this murder. I think 
DD
> knows plenty about Horcruxes and it is one of them 'too noble'
> things. As he is our authority on the situation I think it is safe 
to
> assume that non AK and non direct murders are still Horcrux 
friendly.

aussie:
Great point, Tonks ... Now look at the idea of directing another to 
kill to create a Horcrux, and relate it to Draco. 

LV directed Draco to kill DD. Just as DD assumed the snake could be 
Horcruxed this way, was that part of the hidden reason Draco was 
directed to kill DD and no other? 

The other DE on the tower were aware of this and held back till 
Snape stepped forward. For a long time I have thought young Tom is 
repeated in young Draco.

aussie







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