Harry, Draco and bathroom

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> > Alla:
> > I must specify that I am talking **only** about self defense 
> > situation, so in situation of self-defense if Harry **still* 
> decides 
> > that bastard like Malfoy, who threatened to kill him more than 
> once, 
> > who did at least some bodily damage to him at least once, should 
> not 
> > be killed, well – great.
> 
> a_svirn:
> But if it is self defence (and I do believe it is) Draco's being a 
> bastard is completely irrelevant. Moreover, once you start to bring 
> up his moral qualities and innumerate Harry's grievances against 
> Draco you instantly make Harry's own motives suspect. If Harry took 
> all the wrongs Draco had committed into consideration the whole 
> thing would look less like self-defence and more like revenge.
>

Alla:

Oh, of course Draco being a bastard is irrelevant. This is how I feel 
about Malfoy (as bastard that is :)) and the only reason I brought 
his past wrongdoings is to argue that Harry indeed has a reason to be 
truly afraid for his life and sanity - not as in 'I want to execute 
revenge at him", but as in " I know what he did to me in the past and 
I am afraid that he can do something like that and much worse"

Regardless whether Harry said flat out that he was truly afraid for 
his life or not. I mean Harry does not readily admit when he is 
scared in canon, didn't he?

The only relevant factor that IMO should be taken into consideration 
is Draco starting to throw Crucio.

So, I do not believe that Draco's moral qualities are relevant, but 
his past encounters with Harry IMO are for the reasons stated above.

I suppose than I have to say that no matter who throws crucio at 
Harry ( hypothetical Justin Flinch , or whoever else), that still be 
self-defense. BUT the small difference will be that in that instance 
Harry **may** have a little bit more reason to spare the life, if 
possible.

Not because the other person is better morally than Malfoy, etc, but 
because that other person never did anything to Harry in the past and 
Harry may have a reason to suspect Imperio curse or something to that 
effect. But even here, if his life is threatened, I do not think it 
is an obligation.

JMO,

Alla