ESE, DDM, OFH, or Grey? (WAS: DDM!Snape the definition)

zgirnius zgirnius at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 10 00:12:03 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 162587


> Jen: I'm thinking the awful thing Snape has to do is choose Harry's 
> life over Dumbledore's.  Dumbledore is pleading for Snape to save the 
> boys and carry out his plan for Harry from the inside and *Snape* 
> decides what must be done.  The only thing that bothers me about this 
> scenario is DD lands on the tower under the Dark Mark and tells Harry 
> to get Snape.  Dumbledore knows the death that night will be his own 
> and he doesn't ask Harry to get heroic willing-to-die-for-the-cause 
> Order members, he asks for Snape.  But still I like the idea that 
> Snape's redemption will have added value if he wasn't just following 
> an order, that he made a choice and has to live with it.  Live with 
> the resentment toward Dumbledore, Harry and even Draco and still 
> follow Dumbledore's plan at the same time.

zgirnius:
It was this sort of reasoning that initially attracted me to the Grey! 
camp. But then it hit me...what was Dumbledore asking Snape for? As you 
say, that he save the boys and carry out the plan. This is semantically 
different from "Kill me, Severus!", but under the circumstances, 
logically equivalent. 

So Snape does it. The following orders vs. making a choice seems a 
false dichotomy, to me. Both are choices. And in either case, Snape 
knows what Dumbledore wants, and Snape does it.


DDM! does not, to me, mean that Snape is an automaton devoid of free 
will who always does what Dumbledore says. (Nor do I think this is what 
my fellow DDM!ers think...) So, even if he's given an order, if he 
carries it out, her's making a choice.








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