The Cabinet Plan...again (was:Re: The UV (was ESE, DDM, OFH, or Grey?)

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 162847

> Betsy Hp:
> But that's not a_svirn's point as I understood it.  Or at least, 
> that's not what the point was when this conversation started.  (If 
> there was a shift, I missed it. Which does happen. <g>)
> 
> Here's where this conversation started:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/162798
> > >>a_svirn:
> > Oh, yes, Dumbledore said that he's not a killer. But what does it
> > mean? He didn't say, "Draco, Draco, you are not a murderer", 
because
> > they both knew that Draco did stoop to murder. 
> > <snip>
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> So a_svirn is taking the position (as far as I could tell) that 
while 
> Draco is not a killer (as per Dumbledore) Draco *is* a murderer.  
And 
> (from what I understand) that Dumbledore agrees with that 
assessment 
> and is engaging in linguistical games in order to trick Draco into 
> lowering his wand.
> 

a_svirn:
Well, it's either that, or Dumbledore is lying. Because Draco did 
attempt murder. And it is possible to be a murderer without doing 
actual killing, you know. If I hired you to kill a noisy neighbour of 
mine, I'd be guilty of murder even if you were the one who did actual 
work.