[HPforGrownups] Krum under Imperio WAS: Frogs, Cats and Sadistic Teachers

[Karen]

No: HPFGUIDX 148123


On Monday, February 13, 2006, at 08:16 PM, exodusts wrote:

> > Miles:
> > Just let me ask one small question then:
> > Why can Krum perform Crucio on Cedric, while he has no will of his 
> own
> > (being imperiused), so he is not able to enjoy or "really want" to
> hurt
> > Cedric? Can this joy really been imperiused as well?
> > Or is this just a flaw on JKR's part?
> >
>
>
> Exodusts wrote:
> I'd say probably a flaw. I've never been entirely happy with Imperiused
> Krum using that Unforgivable Curse because it effectively means a
> wizard can indirectly cast spells VIA another wizard, even if he
> or she doesn't know them, and it suggests that (as I mentioned in an
> earlier post) Krum could Imperius someone else, who could Imperius
> someone else, and so on ad infinitem, enabling one wizard who knows the
> Imperius curse to indirectly control an infinite number of others.
>

kchuplis:

I don't think that is an unreasonable assumption. I do think that the 
curse would not be as effective and would definitely decrease per 
number of imperiused by one person and depend highly upon *that* 
wizards ability or innate power. We know Crouch Jr. was a tremendous 
student (per Crouch's rantings to Harry) and we know that Barty Sr. was 
considered very powerful magically, so it is not without reason to 
assume that even a weakend version of his cruciatus curse would be very 
effective. IMO.