Spies, Lies and Self fullfilling prophecies

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No: HPFGUIDX 146712

> Pippin:
> Er, how does a dreadful sneak feign friendship for an entire year 
without a
> qualm?
> 
> Exactly how does a member of the Order of the Phoenix steer clear of
> Dumbledore?
> 
> Peter would have been at Order meetings, where, presumably, the 
leakage
> of information was discussed. And I don't think Dumbledore follows 
the
> Harry Potter method of investigation: ie, decide on a suspect 
first, then
> link all the evidence you find to him. I think he'd be a bit more
> conventional,
> you know, decide on a pool of suspects and gather evidence
> about all of them. Even if he eliminated Peter on the grounds you 
suggest,
> he'd still want evidence about other people close to the Potters, 
and Peter
> would be asked about it. Peter's nervousness would give him away.
> 
> Debbie:
> We don't know whether this would have been addressed at meetings or 
not.
> Fudge (who is perhaps unreliable but was not lying through his 
teeth) said
> Dumbledore was sure someone was keeping Voldemort informed of the 
Potters'
> movements and suspected "that someone on our side had turned 
traitor and was
> passing a lot of information" to him.   We don't know that 
Dumbledore would
> have interrogated people.  And Peter seemed pretty nervous all the 
time.  He
> was nervous in the exam.  He acted nervous even when he applauded 
James'
> tricks with the snitch (note Sirius' comments about wetting his 
pants).
> 


Neri (finally finding a part of ESE!Lupin that he is able to follow):

In addition to Debbie's sound points, are we supposed to think that 
Voldy now knows about Peter awing a Life Debt to Harry? Canon 
certainly doesn't support that.

If Peter can hide his Debt from a superb legilimen like Voldy, it 
seems he isn't such a hopeless occlumen as Pippin makes him appear. 
So maybe he managed to keep secrets from Dumbledore too?

And now that I'm thinking about it, ESE!Lupin does know about Peter 
owing a Life Debt to Harry. So does he too hide this from Voldy? Why? 
What is his motivation here? But whatever his motivation is, he seems 
to trust Peter's ability to keep the secret from Voldy. I mean, if 
Peter ever gets too nervous around the Dark Lord and spills the 
beans, Voldy is bound to summon ESE!Lupin and demand explanations. 
How come you neglected to mention this tiny detail, Mr. Mooney? Does 
my super agent have agendas of his own? Tsk, tsk. Bad, bad wolf. 
Crucio!  

Hmmm, you know Pippin, maybe it's time you and ESE!Lupin have a 
serious talk <g>. He seems to disagree with you about Peter's ability 
to keep a secret.

Neri