ESE!Lupin condensed and Lupin and Sirius replies

[nrenka]

No: HPFGUIDX 146844

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:

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> Nora:
> Some parts of this theory can be argued for in isolation, and might 
> make good sense. But the whole shebang? If Lupin were that 
> unbelievably competent and lucky, he should be sitting on a 
> tropical island of his choice rolling in dough and having hot 
> waitresses bring him drinks.
> 
> Pippin:
> The same would have to be said of Traitor!Snape.

It's not anywhere close in terms of sheer activity.  Traitor!Snape 
has not had a finger in almost every event of evil in the books, and 
this theory does have Lupin making that incredible run.  In addition, 
we do still have the possibility of Snape ending up OFH or some 
variation (that murder on the tower wasn't faked or planned), but not 
always having been such.  I see some nods to potential flexibility in 
this theory's Lupin, but not much.

It's especially noticable when we come to Peter's role.  If we assume 
that Peter *is* the traitor and the spy etc., then we have a whole 
bunch of events that Snape is tangential to--but ones you want to 
argue Lupin was totally implicated in.  Making Peter into the dupe 
loads far too many events onto Lupin.

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> Pippin:
> She doesn't have to burden one character with the whole didactic 
> message either. What's wrong with having Lupin be an ideal teacher 
> but a moral failure, while Snape is the reverse?

No, she doesn't.  But our perception of burden depends on what the 
didactic message *is*.

You're interested in that particular lesson being played out, and I 
see the reasons for it.  It's been a favorite of many listies, 
perhaps encapsulated in 'good but not nice, nice but not good'.  
However, there's no guarantee that's what she's ultimately interested 
in and going for.  I can think of any number of things that OFH!Snape 
and 'weak in the past and getting more of a backbone'!Lupin could 
represent.  YMMV.

-Nora yawns and looks for tea