ESE!Lupin condensed and Lupin and Sirius replies

[nrenka]

No: HPFGUIDX 146857

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:

> Pippin:
> As far as Harry's concerned, Snape's had a love affair with Dark 
> Arts since he was little, invented dark curses, consorted with 
> future Death Eaters, called Lily a mudblood, tried to get James and 
> his friends expelled, joined the DE's, sicced Voldemort on Lily and 
> James, falsely repented, tormented Gryffindor students, tried to 
> get Harry expelled, got Lupin sacked, deliberately botched the 
> occlumency lessons, sent Sirius to his death, conned Dumbledore 
> into making him DADA professor, and finally murdered him. Sounds 
> like quite a run to me.

Right, when you put it that way.  But we can still group these things 
into chunks of related activities, and some of them are quite spread 
out over time.  For instance, there's stuff related to Harry at 
school, stuff dealing with the prophecy, and stuff dealing with the 
post-GoF state of affairs.  What I'm objecting to is that your ESE!
Lupin theory puts Lupin into every situation where he could possibly 
have done the evil thing, when even the most extreme postulation of 
ESE!Snape notes there are a number of events he was probably not 
involved in at all.

For instance, this Lupin planned the Prank, messed with the entire SK 
situation, is responsible for the Longbottoms' insanity, murdered 
unicorns, murdered Sirius, etc.--all generally discrete events 
separated in time, not aspects of the same situation.  This seems 
incredibly overextended.

As for emotional reactions to characters, each person gets chills or 
not at different things.  What has to be asked (and is usually only 
askable in retrospect) is whether that's a function of the text or of 
the reader.  Witness some subsets of shippers and their clues and 
emotional reactions to the text.  I'm not saying that anyone *has* to 
react in a specific way--reactions are individual.  I'm just saying 
that sometimes personal reaction ends up not lining up with the 
text's ultimate presentation of a character or events.

-Nora wishes the sun would stay up longer, in the cold