Snape again
zgirnius
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Mon Jan 23 03:36:33 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 146876
> > Alla:
>
> > I suppose
> > Except that I think that after HBP the possibility of Snape NOT
> > having abusive past increased A LOT. Eileen was a witch, so isn't
it
> > possible that that scene which we all saw in Snape's memories was
> > ONE incident when Tobias learned that his wife is a witch and his
> > son is a wizard?
> kchuplis:
> I suppose I think that a lot of Snape's behaviour is explained if
that
> was not an isolated incident. Also, in "booktime" you only have
(just
> as in "movie time") so much time to give background. A scene such
as
> this is one device an author (or director) would use. No, we don't
know
> for sure, but it seems like a logical conclusion.
zgirnius:
Karen, great post to start this thread, I really liked it! I agree
with your comment here, but also would like to add that the
description of the woman (assuming she was Eileen) suggests this was
not an isolated incident. She is described as 'cowering'. As
in, 'shrinking back in fear'. A more natural reaction in my view to a
first and only instance of being yelled at abuseively by a husband
might be to cry, or yell back, depending on one's personality.
Shrinking back in fear when someone is shouting seems excessive to
me, unless there is prior experience which suggests things could get
worse.
> Alla:
> > And of course I feel that we missing A LOT of information about
> > Snape and Marauders relationship. YES, we have one scene of ugly
> > bullying, BUT we also have a knowledge know that even in that
scene
> > Snape's curse was used against him.
> >
>
> kchuplis
> True, entirely true, but I guess that I feel again as though this
is a
> device, like using snapshots that are "time capsules" to give us
> background. Kind of like little ultimate moments. Certainly Snape
had
> to have gained some new facets to Harry (not that he really cared,
but
> we don't know because by THIS time, they have both given each other
> legitimate reasons to rub each other raw) that he may not have
known
> previously. It's got to give one better understanding of those
people.
> Even single incidents that are really powerful can affect us in
major
> ways. They can end up influencing even the brightest of people for
the
> rest of their lives.
zgirnius:
And we have evidence of a second incident. Yes, of course Snape had
no business being out of his dorm after hours. But Sirius had no
business passing on to him the information about how to get by the
Whomping Willow either...
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