Snape's half truths in "Spinner's End"
sistermagpie
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Mon Mar 13 17:38:11 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 149553
Magda:
> Well, Snape goes down to the gates to pick up Harry when he's late
> for the feast - to check out what happened, I'm sure. He also
gives
> Harry a Saturday detention after the sectumsempra (sp?) incident
> which keeps him off the quidditch pitch - another place that
> "accidents" might happen. Snape was also concerned - visibly -
when
> Draco was caught trying to crash Slughorn's Christmas party - a
party
> where Harry was present.
>
> He also gave detentions to Crabbe and Goyle, so that Draco's
henchmen
> weren't available to him if he was planning to ambush Harry.
> (Showing that Snape knows a lot about Draco's history of tactics.)
Magpie:
But I don't see these things as Snape following either boy around.
He checks on Harry when he's already late--and after Draco's already
had an opportunity to kill him. The detentions also follow Harry
being able to sneak up on Draco in a bathroom. Giving detentions to
C&G and being nervous to see Draco sneaking around are just generic
Snape worry. Snape makes Harry miss one Quidditch game, but Draco
has been avoiding the matches anyway.
Of course, Draco was not caught trying to crash Slughorn's party and
to me it seemed like Snape knew that. Draco was caught sneaking to
the RoR and was forcibly dragged into the party when he gave that to
Filch as a cover story.
Snape probably does know Draco's tactics, so I'd think he'd notice,
just as Harry does, that Draco is not using any of them this year.
He's avoiding Harry.
In order to consider the theory that Snape thinks Draco is supposed
to kill Harry, I need a scene in canon showing me this. A scene that
can be explained by this idea best and most easily. So far all of
these scenes seem to just not quite support it.
Magda:
>
> And I don't think the wine matters. It was in Slughorn's office,
> never left it. Why should Snape assume that Draco would poison
> anyone? And for that matter, why would Snape assume that Draco had
> anything to do with the necklace either? Or if he did, why assume
it
> had anything to do with Harry?
> Snape would have been looking for signs of the same tactics Draco
had
> used for years: ambush, assault, quidditch tricks.
Magpie:
But Snape does think the necklace is Draco's doing--he asks him
outright if it was. He assumes he'd try to poison someone because
he's trying to kill someone--something he's never done before. And
the wine is important because it's a murder attempt. If Snape
thinks Draco's attempting murder why wouldn't he consider that this,
like the necklace, was Draco's doing? And consider that with the
wine, unlike the necklace, he knows who was supposed to get it?
That we know that Snape does immediately suspect Draco of the
necklace caper proves that the assertion that Snape believes Draco
would only resort to ambushes and Quidditch tricks is false.
Magda:
> Snape charges up to the Tower and finds Draco and three DE's with
> Dumbledore. He looks around - no visible Harry. One of the DE's
> says, "we've got a problem Snape, the boy doesn't seem able to -"
I
> would submit that in that moment he realized who the target was. >
I don't think Snape would ever show confusion; he covers it up with
> anger.
Magpie:
Yes, that would be the moment, but Snape's description doesn't seem
to include any big realization. Even if he's covering something up,
we see him covering something up. We'd see something rise and be
smothered on his face. This seems more like making the scene fit
the idea rather than the scene naturally supporting it. As you
actually come out and describe here:
Magda:
> As for writing in moments of their interactions connected to the
vow
> - well, she didn't so there's not much we can do about it.
Magpie:
That's totally backwards, imo. We go by what she did write to
conclude from that what's going on. We don't decide what's going on
and then assume it's the fault of the text for not backing us up.
JKR's text actually does usually back us up. To me it's one of the
most constant characteristics of her writing.
-m
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